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> Fortunately this didn't work out for them but unfortunately that worked out for Google. No, Google was better, then they used Chrome as an extremely powerful
by Loic 2y ago
> Fortunately this didn't work out for them but unfortunately that worked out for Google.
No, Google was better, then they used Chrome as an extremely powerful moat to protect their situation. Google at first was like magic compared to the Altavista of the time.
- mrkramer 2y agoYes but without Chrome, Google wouldn't have 90% search market share that they have today. They are completely dominating the WWW industry.
- jervant 2y agoSurely making deals with companies like Apple and Mozilla to be the default search engine was a big part of building that market share. How many iPhone users bother to set a different search engine in Safari?
- attendant3446 2y agoHow easy is it to set a different search engine in Safari (apart from a very few predefined options)? =)
- pjc50 2y agoI'm not convinced; early on they actually had a better product with better UI and better search results.
- bee_rider 2y agoYeah. I have no data but my gut says, if anything, they couldn’t have gotten this bad at search without Chrome.
- thereddaikon 2y agoGoogle won the search market on merit but they've maintained it with Chrome. Google search has been garbage for a long time and in the last few years it's gotten bad enough that even laymen are noticing it.
- bee_rider 2y agoIs that true? I seem to remember Google dominating search all the way back in 2010 (before Chrome really caught on).
- eastbound 2y agoWe all agree Google-the-search-engine is losing relevance (literally). So they should also lose their distribution channel, Chrome, because being nagged until you synchronize your Chrome profile and use their search engine is anti-competitive, on top of being pretentious from a less-relevant search engine.
- adestefan 2y agoIt wasn't just the search that was amazing. You would go to google.com and be presented with only a Google logo, 1 line input box, and 2 buttons. No portal, no news, no header, no login, no advertise with us, no punching monkeys. It was a refreshingly different take on the web at the time.
- sharpshadow 2y agoThat’s how I feel about Yandex lately. When it’s a struggle to find something on the common search engines, Yandex works like magic. It’s not that Yandex is particularly better in any way, it just chooses to not filter the content one is looking for.
- stoperaticless 2y agoAccording to wikipedia. Headquarters: Moscow, Russia
- rglynn 2y agoGenuine question, what is the concern about a Russian search engine? Every argument I can think of is just worse with Google (spying, propaganda, censorship, security etc).
- stoperaticless 2y agoIt depends on the region. My neibhours never heard about the need to “denazify” us from Google’s home government. War is much much worse than google. (Btw. Kagi is nice alternative, where you are the customer, not the product) > what is the concern Additional inteligence channel for their three letter agencies. When somebody asks Yandex for data, decision making is done in such environment: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_notable_Russians_in_2022%E2%80%932024 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_notable... (such environment also suggests how accountable are the people requesting said data)
- ImJamal 2y ago> My neibhours never heard about the need to “denazify” us from Google’s home government. Plenty of people think Trump is "literally" Hitler... Maybe your neighbors don't think that, but plenty of people do.
- water-data-dude 2y ago