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You don't need false documents, buying and operating a ship that has no direct ties to Russia and is registered at an other country isn't that hard at all. Of c

You don't need false documents, buying and operating a ship that has no direct ties to Russia and is registered at an other country isn't that hard at all. Of course yeah, if suddenly if cables get cut 10x more often that they used to it be pretty obvious who is behind it regardless. > has never been to do things where it's not obvious they did They could still shot them or something like that, the window thing still grants them some plausible deniability. e.g. the ship that (unclear if intentionally) damaged the cables last year was Chinese.

XorNot 2y ago
> You don't need false documents, buying and operating a ship that has no direct ties to Russia and is registered at an other country isn't that hard at all You literally just described a program of falsifying documents! If you're buying and operating a ship, then to have "no ties to Russia" while using Russian money, someone is showing up with forged paperwork or some off-the-books bribes to make that happen. Drawing down those sorts of sums from a country's treasury isn't something you can actually just "do" - people have to take actions, funds transferred, meetings held and operations authorized. You are describing a system of resources which likely does exist, but is by no means easy to use or acquire and would not be expended unnecessarily.
- Wytwwww 2y ago
  Again, I'm not sure getting a ship registered (or just buying one) in a random island country through a shell company would be that hard. > funds transferred, meetings held and operations authorized. It's Russia... I doubt there would be a lot oversight. But they might just as well get the money from one of the "private" companies run by Putin's cronies with zero direct involvement by the Russian government. Anyway, I still think that acquiring the ship itself is still a relatively trivial problem to solve.

XorNot 2y ago

> You don't need false documents, buying and operating a ship that has no direct ties to Russia and is registered at an other country isn't that hard at all You literally just described a program of falsifying documents! If you're buying and operating a ship, then to have "no ties to Russia" while using Russian money, someone is showing up with forged paperwork or some off-the-books bribes to make that happen. Drawing down those sorts of sums from a country's treasury isn't something you can actually just "do" - people have to take actions, funds transferred, meetings held and operations authorized. You are describing a system of resources which likely does exist, but is by no means easy to use or acquire and would not be expended unnecessarily.

Wytwwww 2y ago
Again, I'm not sure getting a ship registered (or just buying one) in a random island country through a shell company would be that hard. > funds transferred, meetings held and operations authorized. It's Russia... I doubt there would be a lot oversight. But they might just as well get the money from one of the "private" companies run by Putin's cronies with zero direct involvement by the Russian government. Anyway, I still think that acquiring the ship itself is still a relatively trivial problem to solve.