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> Why would 'doc.gwern.net' be more obviously just a random document than 'gwern.net/doc/www/'? HN only shows the domain next to the title. So now when browsin

> Why would 'doc.gwern.net' be more obviously just a random document than 'gwern.net/doc/www/'? HN only shows the domain next to the title. So now when browsing the front page we only see gwern.net as the source of the doc and initially assume it's some work from you.

antasvara 2y ago
That brings up the second question though, which is why someone would assume that docs.gwern.net links to a document not by Gwern.
- telotortium 2y ago
  That's why I'm trying to think of a better subdomain. - archive.gwern.net? - static.gwern.net? - thirdparty.gwern.net? - localarchive.gwern.net?
jolmg 2y ago
I don't think HN shows third-level domains, so the point is moot. There may be exceptions for web services that lend out subdomains like Github[1], but doc.gwern.net would probably still show as gwern.net[2]. If you're willing to see the URL in the browser statusbar or addressbar, then the URL path makes very clear that the actual source is arxiv.org. [1] Example: gliimly.github.io -> gliimly.github.io https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42148808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42148808 [2] Example: www.researchgate.net -> researchgate.net https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42181345 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42181345
- littlestymaar 2y ago
  You're right, I didn't realize that the third-level domains that show up may be due to some kind of whitelisting. The [2] was not a convincing example because www sound something that'd get special treatment, but then I found this one: tech.marksblogg.com -> marksblogg.com (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42182519 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42182519) which proves you right. TIL.
  - jolmg 2y ago
    It's not even really about domains. It's about displaying the "author"/"source" of the content in the link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23537725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23537725 > https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1011692979877105664 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1011692979877105664 turns to > (twitter.com/foone)

antasvara 2y ago

That brings up the second question though, which is why someone would assume that docs.gwern.net links to a document not by Gwern.

telotortium 2y ago
That's why I'm trying to think of a better subdomain. - archive.gwern.net? - static.gwern.net? - thirdparty.gwern.net? - localarchive.gwern.net?

jolmg 2y ago

I don't think HN shows third-level domains, so the point is moot. There may be exceptions for web services that lend out subdomains like Github[1], but doc.gwern.net would probably still show as gwern.net[2]. If you're willing to see the URL in the browser statusbar or addressbar, then the URL path makes very clear that the actual source is arxiv.org. [1] Example: gliimly.github.io -> gliimly.github.io https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42148808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42148808 [2] Example: www.researchgate.net -> researchgate.net https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42181345 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42181345

littlestymaar 2y ago
You're right, I didn't realize that the third-level domains that show up may be due to some kind of whitelisting. The [2] was not a convincing example because www sound something that'd get special treatment, but then I found this one: tech.marksblogg.com -> marksblogg.com (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42182519 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42182519) which proves you right. TIL.
- jolmg 2y ago
  It's not even really about domains. It's about displaying the "author"/"source" of the content in the link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23537725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23537725 > https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1011692979877105664 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1011692979877105664 turns to > (twitter.com/foone)