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Aha, a plunge router attached to a Roomba j/k ;). That page is very helpful. Hard to say what it's good for unless you're a dedicated woodwork buff. Otherwis

Aha, a plunge router attached to a Roomba j/k ;). That page is very helpful. Hard to say what it's good for unless you're a dedicated woodwork buff. Otherwise a jigsaw seems like enough for a lot of this.

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Projectiboga 2y ago
I think it can do beveled and rounded edges plus do surface cuts* like for cabinent doors. And this will cut even edges, jigsaws are trickier for curves. *(likely wrong word)
zharknado 2y ago
Capabilities that would be most impressive with a jigsaw: - 50mm of z-axis travel - Cuts in the center of a 4x8’ sheet of material - Repeatable cuts to a decent tolerance - Cuts made while you sleep
- diggan 2y ago
  > - Cuts made while you sleep Can you leave the Maslow completely unattended? The video examples/timelapses I came across seems to always have a person removing sawdust (or something) every X minutes.
  - syntaxing 2y ago
    It’s pretty ill advised to leave any subtractive manufacturing machinery unattended
    - mhb 2y ago
      Can we have a word about my butter sculpture?
    - buildsjets 2y ago
      Commercial machine shops that run “lights off” typically will have continuous process monitoring, automated fire detection, automatic fire extinguishing, smoke containment and evacuation, and of course the correct permits and insurance coverage.
      - okaram 2y ago
        And, correct me if I'm wrong, they also have a person somewhere around and a big red button, right?
        jdietrich 2y ago
        Not if they're running lights-out, which is increasingly common in machining. A modern machine tool with all of the features mentioned above is designed to run unattended. It isn't uncommon for bar-feed lathes or mills with pallet pools to be actively running for >160hrs per week. If you're careful about your parameters and run the machine well within its capability, you rarely need to hit the big red button. Modern machines are smart enough to hit the big red button themselves when they really need to, and alert a human to the fact that something has interrupted production. https://www.mscdirect.com/betterMRO/metalworking/definitive-guide-lights-out-manufacturing https://www.mscdirect.com/betterMRO/metalworking/definitive-...
        buildsjets 2y ago
        I work with one machine shop in Kent, WA that has a dozen Citizen L32 swiss machines in a row, turning out parts all night long. It will automatically stop with no notification for minor faults but stops and pages the on-call for major issues. https://youtu.be/HLSerqr6WTs?si=xslBZNXjpDGTlfy5 https://youtu.be/HLSerqr6WTs?si=xslBZNXjpDGTlfy5
        diggan 2y ago
        > but stops and pages the on-call for major issues. Just for curiosities sake, where are those on-call people located? At location, close to factory, home presumably?
  - zharknado 2y ago
    Good point, probably ill-advised to sleep with it running!
cpwright 2y ago
There was a Roomba equivalent company out there, which would have wheels that drive the motor around, but they never shipped. Maslow moves itself by pulling on belts on fixed anchor points. The Shaper Origin has you move the machine, and it makes corrections using machine vision to track its position. It will give you more accuracy than a Maslow; but at a much greater cost and more attention. A jig saw does not make as clean cuts as a router, and you need to have the workpiece suspend so the blade can go through the work. With a router, you can just have a spoilboard underneath.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  >The Shaper Origin has you move the machine, and it makes corrections using machine vision to track its position. It will give you more accuracy than a Maslow; but at a much greater cost and more attention. I really don't understand the market for the shaper. Even the youtubers that get paid to shill them don't seem to have a compelling reason to be using them.
  - jdietrich 2y ago
    Broadly the same market as the Festool Domino. The Domino doesn't do anything that you can't do with a dowel jig or a biscuit jointer, it's just does one thing quickly, accurately and well. The Shaper Origin isn't a replacement for a full-sheet CNC router with an ATC, but it is an excellent alternative to a plunge router and a stack of custom templates. Nobody needs one, but for someone who does high-end custom cabinetry and joinery, the Origin should give a good ROI.
  - mbgerring 2y ago
    Being able to cut complex shapes on site for art builds, where a designer knows Illustrator but nothing about tool paths, has paid for my Shaper Origin several times over already.
    - Suppafly 2y ago
      >where a designer knows Illustrator but nothing about tool paths I guess that's probably the best use case, you've changed my mind.

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Projectiboga 2y ago

I think it can do beveled and rounded edges plus do surface cuts* like for cabinent doors. And this will cut even edges, jigsaws are trickier for curves. *(likely wrong word)

zharknado 2y ago

Capabilities that would be most impressive with a jigsaw: - 50mm of z-axis travel - Cuts in the center of a 4x8’ sheet of material - Repeatable cuts to a decent tolerance - Cuts made while you sleep

diggan 2y ago
> - Cuts made while you sleep Can you leave the Maslow completely unattended? The video examples/timelapses I came across seems to always have a person removing sawdust (or something) every X minutes.
- syntaxing 2y ago
  It’s pretty ill advised to leave any subtractive manufacturing machinery unattended
  - mhb 2y ago
    Can we have a word about my butter sculpture?
  - buildsjets 2y ago
    Commercial machine shops that run “lights off” typically will have continuous process monitoring, automated fire detection, automatic fire extinguishing, smoke containment and evacuation, and of course the correct permits and insurance coverage.
    - okaram 2y ago
      And, correct me if I'm wrong, they also have a person somewhere around and a big red button, right?
      - jdietrich 2y ago
        Not if they're running lights-out, which is increasingly common in machining. A modern machine tool with all of the features mentioned above is designed to run unattended. It isn't uncommon for bar-feed lathes or mills with pallet pools to be actively running for >160hrs per week. If you're careful about your parameters and run the machine well within its capability, you rarely need to hit the big red button. Modern machines are smart enough to hit the big red button themselves when they really need to, and alert a human to the fact that something has interrupted production. https://www.mscdirect.com/betterMRO/metalworking/definitive-guide-lights-out-manufacturing https://www.mscdirect.com/betterMRO/metalworking/definitive-...
      - buildsjets 2y ago
        I work with one machine shop in Kent, WA that has a dozen Citizen L32 swiss machines in a row, turning out parts all night long. It will automatically stop with no notification for minor faults but stops and pages the on-call for major issues. https://youtu.be/HLSerqr6WTs?si=xslBZNXjpDGTlfy5 https://youtu.be/HLSerqr6WTs?si=xslBZNXjpDGTlfy5
        diggan 2y ago
        > but stops and pages the on-call for major issues. Just for curiosities sake, where are those on-call people located? At location, close to factory, home presumably?
- zharknado 2y ago
  Good point, probably ill-advised to sleep with it running!

cpwright 2y ago

There was a Roomba equivalent company out there, which would have wheels that drive the motor around, but they never shipped. Maslow moves itself by pulling on belts on fixed anchor points. The Shaper Origin has you move the machine, and it makes corrections using machine vision to track its position. It will give you more accuracy than a Maslow; but at a much greater cost and more attention. A jig saw does not make as clean cuts as a router, and you need to have the workpiece suspend so the blade can go through the work. With a router, you can just have a spoilboard underneath.

Suppafly 2y ago
>The Shaper Origin has you move the machine, and it makes corrections using machine vision to track its position. It will give you more accuracy than a Maslow; but at a much greater cost and more attention. I really don't understand the market for the shaper. Even the youtubers that get paid to shill them don't seem to have a compelling reason to be using them.
- jdietrich 2y ago
  Broadly the same market as the Festool Domino. The Domino doesn't do anything that you can't do with a dowel jig or a biscuit jointer, it's just does one thing quickly, accurately and well. The Shaper Origin isn't a replacement for a full-sheet CNC router with an ATC, but it is an excellent alternative to a plunge router and a stack of custom templates. Nobody needs one, but for someone who does high-end custom cabinetry and joinery, the Origin should give a good ROI.
- mbgerring 2y ago
  Being able to cut complex shapes on site for art builds, where a designer knows Illustrator but nothing about tool paths, has paid for my Shaper Origin several times over already.
  - Suppafly 2y ago
    >where a designer knows Illustrator but nothing about tool paths I guess that's probably the best use case, you've changed my mind.