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Its also been widely reported that when Trump first met Putin he said if he invaded Ukraine, he would turn Moscow and several other cities into a parking lot. T
by burningChrome 2y ago
Its also been widely reported that when Trump first met Putin he said if he invaded Ukraine, he would turn Moscow and several other cities into a parking lot. Trump in several interviews has said he warned Putin not to do it, that he would pay a very, very heavy cost and he would see to it that he would.
This is all Trump had to do.
He was able to leverage the media's reporting on him that he was reckless, dangerous and prone to rash behavior and they were convinced he was going to start WWIII with? Yeap, you guessed it, the Russians. Putin believed what the media were reporting because Trump himself had verbally warned him.
He didn't need forces and cash. He did what OP recommended, he threatened Putin with force and Putin complied and just waited out Trump. It was a gift that Biden was elected in 2020 and if you go through the news reports, literally months after Biden was elected, Russia started massing troops on the border and readying their troops to invade. Its a strange coincidence that they didn't invade in the four years Trump was in office. He leaves and less than a year later, Russia is preparing to invade? C'mon man.
Your timeline is completely wrong.
- Biden's inauguration took place on January 2021.
- The Russians were amassing troops by December of 2021 (less than a year after he took office).
- The Afghan pullout wasn't until the Summer of 2021
- The Russian officially invaded in February of 2022
The green light wasn't needing forces and cash built up, it was Trump leaving office. The Afghan pullout had no effect on when they were going to invade since they were already massing troops and air support to the border regions where they finally launched their invasion from. Its not like the Russians decided to invade during the Afghan disaster as you insinuated, the invasion plans were already established by then.
Again, the tipping point was Trump leaving office.
- tenuousemphasis 2y agoSurely you should be able to provide a source for the claim that Trump threatened Putin over Ukraine.
- teractiveodular 2y agoHere's the man himself claiming this in his inimitably eloquent style: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-putin-no-way-ukraine-musk_n_66bb6507e4b04b3eb25275eb https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-putin-no-way-ukraine-mu... "No way." "Way."
- alecco 2y agoNot op. But in 2018 Trump did scold live on camera the German leaders for buying gas from Russia. "Germany is completely controlled by Russia". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JpwkeTBwgs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JpwkeTBwgs NOTE: I mostly don't like Trump. But the "Russiagate" angle is ridiculous.
- timeon 2y agoThis is moving the goalpost a bit.
- burningChrome 2y agoHere you go: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17852964/donald-trump-threaten-bomb-moscow-russia-invade-ukraine/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17852964/donald-trump-threaten... “They're all saying oh he's a nuclear power, it's like they're afraid of him,” Trump said in a recording of the phone conversation with Daly. “You know, he was a friend of mine, I got along great with him. I say, Vladimir, if you do it, we're hitting Moscow. We're going to hit Moscow. And he sort of believed me like 5 per cent, 10 per cent - that's all you need.” He's also said the same thing in several interview. That he told Putin he would make it very difficult to take Ukraine and it cost them economically and militarily. You can infer that meant could mean several things depending on your point of view.
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- rad_gruchalski 2y ago> Its also been widely reported that when Trump first met Putin he said if he invaded Ukraine, he would turn Moscow and several other cities into a parking lot. Yeah. Trump talks a lot. Like his best friend, Melon.
- M3L0NM4N 2y agoI am NOT his best friend.