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> There are many other better options out there otherwise, and they are all free. For how long, though? The trajectory for Firefox doesn’t look good at all (a

by lxgr 2y ago

> There are many other better options out there otherwise, and they are all free. For how long, though? The trajectory for Firefox doesn’t look good at all (and it’s completely dependent on Google too). Apple are doing their share of anticompetitive shenanigans with Safari on iOS, although the other way around. Everything else is based on Chromium and therefore not contributing to any heterogeneity of implementations.

DiggyJohnson 2y ago
Can anyone think of a hero to save us?
- password4321 2y ago
  Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder 20240701 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40856791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40856791
  - DiggyJohnson 2y ago
    Precisely. Thank you for affirming that setup aha
- alternatex 2y ago
  Maybe Zen Browser as an alternative to Firefox.
- chaxor 2y ago
  https://github.com/servo/servo https://github.com/servo/servo Servo is upcoming, but so far it is fantastic in comparison to any other browser out there. I tend to focus on any software that does not require 12 teams of people 6 weeks to determine how to build a single binary because of the use of 20 different programming languages and mixing and matching of paradigms and solutions to subconponents. I very much appreciate simplicity and look for highly secure and private programs that highly discourage JavaScript from ever being run. Servo is finally a breath of fresh air in that regard.
  - tombert 2y ago
    Interesting, until today I had assumed that Servo was basically dead and that most of the interesting bits had been integrated into Firefox. I'll give Servo a try and see if I like it.
avtolik 2y ago
> The trajectory for Firefox doesn’t look good at all (and it’s completely dependent on Google too). Can you elaborate on this? I am using Firefox since it was released, and it is getting better, not worse.
- dtech 2y ago
  It's market share has been slowly trending downward since forever
- alt227 2y ago
  They keep firing large chunks of their employees due to not much cash, and the majority of their funding comes from google which it is phasing out over time.
  - warkdarrior 2y ago
    Once Chrome is spun out of Google and Firefox loses its Google sponsorship, Firefox and Chrome will be able to complete for $$$ on an equal basis -- maybe by charging for the browser software, or selling a subscription, or selling user data to companies, etc.
niutech 2y ago
Not everything else is based on Chromium - see: Epiphany, Servo, Ladybird.

by lxgr 2y ago

DiggyJohnson 2y ago

Can anyone think of a hero to save us?

password4321 2y ago
Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder 20240701 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40856791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40856791
- DiggyJohnson 2y ago
  Precisely. Thank you for affirming that setup aha
alternatex 2y ago
Maybe Zen Browser as an alternative to Firefox.
chaxor 2y ago
https://github.com/servo/servo https://github.com/servo/servo Servo is upcoming, but so far it is fantastic in comparison to any other browser out there. I tend to focus on any software that does not require 12 teams of people 6 weeks to determine how to build a single binary because of the use of 20 different programming languages and mixing and matching of paradigms and solutions to subconponents. I very much appreciate simplicity and look for highly secure and private programs that highly discourage JavaScript from ever being run. Servo is finally a breath of fresh air in that regard.
- tombert 2y ago
  Interesting, until today I had assumed that Servo was basically dead and that most of the interesting bits had been integrated into Firefox. I'll give Servo a try and see if I like it.

avtolik 2y ago

> The trajectory for Firefox doesn’t look good at all (and it’s completely dependent on Google too). Can you elaborate on this? I am using Firefox since it was released, and it is getting better, not worse.

dtech 2y ago
It's market share has been slowly trending downward since forever
alt227 2y ago
They keep firing large chunks of their employees due to not much cash, and the majority of their funding comes from google which it is phasing out over time.
- warkdarrior 2y ago
  Once Chrome is spun out of Google and Firefox loses its Google sponsorship, Firefox and Chrome will be able to complete for $$$ on an equal basis -- maybe by charging for the browser software, or selling a subscription, or selling user data to companies, etc.

niutech 2y ago

Not everything else is based on Chromium - see: Epiphany, Servo, Ladybird.