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One of my relative complained about high food price. Then I expect imposition of tariff to spike food price even higher, ditto with immigrant deportation if it'

by kiba 2y ago

One of my relative complained about high food price. Then I expect imposition of tariff to spike food price even higher, ditto with immigrant deportation if it's actually implemented as the president elected suggested. You're right that the people who's making the literal food on our table should be well compensated, from farmhands to the farmers who own their land. However, what you're suggesting is putting people between a rock and a hard place. It would be easier to deal with if housing and transportation costs weren't so expensive though.

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
I am not sure why you’re getting downvoted, as I think you raise some good points. Personally I think tariffs against China are valuable for geopolitical reasons, and think that might be a higher priority at a time when the CCP is unstable. But it will cause at least temporary pain for consumers, yes. I also don’t know the effect of deportation of illegal immigrants - my understanding is we have a (legal) way for seasonal agriculture workers to work in the US on some special visa. I’d be curious how many workers use or don’t use that program. As for putting people between a rock and a hard place. I guess I feel that all the companies abusing their positions of power are where I want money to come out of. For example, just because Walmart controls distribution to shoppers in their stores, they shouldn’t be able to bully farmers into zero margins. That cost should come out of Walmart’s bottom line (and therefore from owners and shareholders of Walmart). Likewise for the other big players in this ecosystem. But we have no laws or ability to do any of this. Just thinking out loud…
- FactKnower69 2y ago
  >Personally I think tariffs against China are valuable for geopolitical reasons, and think that might be a higher priority at a time when the CCP is unstable. What exactly do you mean by this?
  - dgfitz 2y ago
    I don't know what the outcome of tariffs will be. but I do know Xi is terrified of them. I haven't seen any literature about what the possible, with a giant grain of salt, benefits would be of tariffs.

by kiba 2y ago

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

I am not sure why you’re getting downvoted, as I think you raise some good points. Personally I think tariffs against China are valuable for geopolitical reasons, and think that might be a higher priority at a time when the CCP is unstable. But it will cause at least temporary pain for consumers, yes. I also don’t know the effect of deportation of illegal immigrants - my understanding is we have a (legal) way for seasonal agriculture workers to work in the US on some special visa. I’d be curious how many workers use or don’t use that program. As for putting people between a rock and a hard place. I guess I feel that all the companies abusing their positions of power are where I want money to come out of. For example, just because Walmart controls distribution to shoppers in their stores, they shouldn’t be able to bully farmers into zero margins. That cost should come out of Walmart’s bottom line (and therefore from owners and shareholders of Walmart). Likewise for the other big players in this ecosystem. But we have no laws or ability to do any of this. Just thinking out loud…

FactKnower69 2y ago
>Personally I think tariffs against China are valuable for geopolitical reasons, and think that might be a higher priority at a time when the CCP is unstable. What exactly do you mean by this?
- dgfitz 2y ago
  I don't know what the outcome of tariffs will be. but I do know Xi is terrified of them. I haven't seen any literature about what the possible, with a giant grain of salt, benefits would be of tariffs.