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One thing I'd really like AI to do (and Ben Afflect touched during his talk) is that once AI is cheap enough to run at home, I'd like to feed it all David Lynch

by yegle 2y ago

One thing I'd really like AI to do (and Ben Afflect touched during his talk) is that once AI is cheap enough to run at home, I'd like to feed it all David Lynch movies/TV shows, and ask it to produce a Twin Peaks season 4.

squidsoup 2y ago
And you'd never get anything close to what Lynch would make, you'd get the equivalent of fan fiction.
- ruthmarx 2y ago
  Lynch will be one of the easier things for an AI to replicate given his thing is weird for the sake of weird and being deliberately vague about it. His stuff is 90% atmosphere.
  - squidsoup 2y ago
    Everything he has made is impregnated with meaning. He is absolutely not weird for the sake of weird, and if you think he is, you’ve misunderstood his work.
    - ruthmarx 2y ago
      > Everything he has made is impregnated with meaning. Eh. He creates dreams via cinema. His work is abstract and open to interpretation, that doesn't mean it is 'impregnated' with meaning so much as you and others personally found meaning in it. > if you think he is, you’ve misunderstood his work. Given that no one can claim to understand his work since he refuses to answer questions on it, this is a rather meaningless claim. I can just as easily claim that if you think his work is 'impregnated' with meaning, then it is you who has misunderstood his work.
      - squidsoup 2y ago
        There are very clear themes and currents running through his work - fears around industrialisation and technology (electricity and machinery are recurring motifs), explorations of identity, exploitation both sexual and societal, the facade of the American dream, the cost of pursuing a creative life. I'm only scratching the surface there. Lynch does actually talk about his work quite a bit, but he prefers to talk about his process and its connection to his mediation practice, rather than explicit meaning of his symbolism.
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        > There are very clear themes and currents running through his work - fears around industrialisation and technology (electricity and machinery are recurring motifs), explorations of identity, exploitation both sexual and societal, the facade of the American dream, the cost of pursuing a creative life. I'm only scratching the surface there. I agree there are recurring themes. That doesn't conflict with anything I've claimed. > Lynch does actually talk about his work quite a bit, but he prefers to talk about his process and its connection to his mediation practice, rather than explicit meaning of his symbolism. Which also doesn't conflict with me saying he refuses to clarify or elaborate on meaning behind his works.
        squidsoup 2y ago
        > That doesn't conflict with anything I've claimed. It absolutely does - you said "His stuff is 90% atmosphere" and "weird for the sake of weird", both complete nonsense.
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        > It absolutely does No, it doesn't. His work can have recurring themes and still be weird for the sake of weird and mostly atmosphere. Those things are not at all mutually exclusive. > both complete nonsense. Not really, it's more that you're likely offended in that I'm reducing so significantly a work you clearly find a lot of meaning in and enjoy discussing.

by yegle 2y ago

squidsoup 2y ago

And you'd never get anything close to what Lynch would make, you'd get the equivalent of fan fiction.

ruthmarx 2y ago
Lynch will be one of the easier things for an AI to replicate given his thing is weird for the sake of weird and being deliberately vague about it. His stuff is 90% atmosphere.
- squidsoup 2y ago
  Everything he has made is impregnated with meaning. He is absolutely not weird for the sake of weird, and if you think he is, you’ve misunderstood his work.
  - ruthmarx 2y ago
    > Everything he has made is impregnated with meaning. Eh. He creates dreams via cinema. His work is abstract and open to interpretation, that doesn't mean it is 'impregnated' with meaning so much as you and others personally found meaning in it. > if you think he is, you’ve misunderstood his work. Given that no one can claim to understand his work since he refuses to answer questions on it, this is a rather meaningless claim. I can just as easily claim that if you think his work is 'impregnated' with meaning, then it is you who has misunderstood his work.
    - squidsoup 2y ago
      There are very clear themes and currents running through his work - fears around industrialisation and technology (electricity and machinery are recurring motifs), explorations of identity, exploitation both sexual and societal, the facade of the American dream, the cost of pursuing a creative life. I'm only scratching the surface there. Lynch does actually talk about his work quite a bit, but he prefers to talk about his process and its connection to his mediation practice, rather than explicit meaning of his symbolism.
      - ruthmarx 2y ago
        > There are very clear themes and currents running through his work - fears around industrialisation and technology (electricity and machinery are recurring motifs), explorations of identity, exploitation both sexual and societal, the facade of the American dream, the cost of pursuing a creative life. I'm only scratching the surface there. I agree there are recurring themes. That doesn't conflict with anything I've claimed. > Lynch does actually talk about his work quite a bit, but he prefers to talk about his process and its connection to his mediation practice, rather than explicit meaning of his symbolism. Which also doesn't conflict with me saying he refuses to clarify or elaborate on meaning behind his works.
        squidsoup 2y ago
        > That doesn't conflict with anything I've claimed. It absolutely does - you said "His stuff is 90% atmosphere" and "weird for the sake of weird", both complete nonsense.
        ruthmarx 2y ago
        > It absolutely does No, it doesn't. His work can have recurring themes and still be weird for the sake of weird and mostly atmosphere. Those things are not at all mutually exclusive. > both complete nonsense. Not really, it's more that you're likely offended in that I'm reducing so significantly a work you clearly find a lot of meaning in and enjoy discussing.