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The violent crime rate in the US is a fraction of what it was 30 years ago. The only difference is that now every crime is getting blasted from the rooftops by
by psunavy03 2y ago
The violent crime rate in the US is a fraction of what it was 30 years ago. The only difference is that now every crime is getting blasted from the rooftops by the news media as propaganda to generate clicks on ads.
There is a violent crime problem in specific neighborhoods of specific cities, largely tied to gangs and the drug trade. But there is zero empirical data to suggest that it is more of a nationwide problem than it was in the 1980s and 1990s.
The majority of gun deaths in this country (60-80 percent jurisdiction-dependent) are people committing suicide, often middle-aged men. Beyond that, the average gun murder is a young man with a criminal record killing another young man with a criminal record using an illegally-possessed handgun.
- returningfory2 2y agoThere's also the fact that way more Americans are killed by cars than in homicides. This is not to diminish the importance of tackling homicides. But the high level picture of "what is most wrong in America" is definitely skewed in weird ways that is independent of the underlying reality.
- fuzztester 2y ago>The violent crime rate in the US is a fraction of what it was 30 years ago. The only difference is that now every crime is getting blasted from the rooftops by the news media as propaganda to generate clicks on ads. How about all the mass shootings that we read about, happening every few weeks or even more frequently, sometimes back-to-back, on average, in the US? That's not violent crime? Of course it is. >a fraction of what it was 30 years ago And statistics don't paint the full picture, not by a long chalk, unless all you are is a bean counter. What about the personal and family and friends' trauma of all the victims and their circles? We can dismiss that as negligible, right? /s Check these: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_th... There were so many that I got tired of scrolling. JFC.
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- psunavy03 2y agoWhat about the personal and family and friends' trauma of all the victims of drunken driving, alcoholism, and their circles? Should we re-enact Prohibition, given that there are orders of magnitude more people who've been victimized by alcohol than firearms? No, that's absurd. You regulate the problem through hard, data-driven analysis, not waving the bloody shirt. Be that violent crime or addiction.
- compiler-guy 2y agoDon’t confuse, “the overall crime rate is down signicantly in very good ways” with “and therefore the remainder is fine”.
- psunavy03 2y agoAlso don't confuse the law of diminishing returns with "therefore the remainder is fine," either. There's room for regulation of many of the ills of our society, but you will always reach a point where trying to stamp out that last bit you can't get ends up taking away things that make life worth living. I can't imagine more of a hell than being forced to live a life wrapped up in bubble wrap so someone else is convinced I'm "safe."
- fuzztester 2y ago[flagged]
- psunavy03 2y agoYeah, so you misrepresented what I said to call me an alcoholic and thus denigrate my point via an ad hominem. Instead of actually engaging with my argument on the merits, you misrepresent it and act like a troll. Goodbye, you aren't worth my time.