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The iOS devices you should support

16 points by rjstelling 14y ago

macavity23 14y ago
It would be nice to see some justification for this matrix. I did some googling, and though I was surprised at seeing the 3G recommended for 'No Support', the data would seem to back that up: http://www.14oranges.com/2012/04/ios-version-statistics-april-14th-2012/ http://www.14oranges.com/2012/04/ios-version-statistics-apri...
- rjstelling 14y ago
  Great point, I'll start to jot down my reasons. But mainly fall into two categories; features and cost/benefit. For example every ~6 weeks Apple sell more iPhone 4S than total number of iOS 4 devices still in use.
fbomb 14y ago
What happened to iPods?
- rjstelling 14y ago
  I hear you, draft 2 coming up!
- gte910h 14y ago
  iPodTouches go with the generation of phone they are the same generation of. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 I suggest release date to figure that out.
kalleboo 14y ago
We're also not supporting the original iPad on some new apps since the hardware is too underpowered to deliver great performance, and we believe it'll quickly become a liability in the future (better to have not supported it from the beginning than having to drop support a few versions down the line).
luigiwallo 14y ago
This graphic needs more context/metrics. Are these judgments made on past trends? Usage numbers? Something like how MacRumors buying guide averages out past release schedules to determine the next likely update: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
- rjstelling 14y ago
  I'm sourcing some stats to add this, but up-to-date reliable iOS stats are as easy to find as unicorn tears.
densh 14y ago
It's easy understand that developers don't really want support older platforms as that might be quite of a burden. But please don't drop support if you can. Not everyone likes updating to newest version of OS on their phone all the time especially if there are no significant changes coming. (IMO There haven't been any killer features in 5.x and 6.x revisions of iOS.) The thing that annoys me most is Mac applications that don't support 10.6 any more even though that's shoudn't be hard at all as desktop APIs are quite stable and don't change much. Or applications that support full screen only on 10.7. (Seriously, Evernote?)
- gte910h 14y ago
  iOS 5 has a far less buggy memory management system (strong/weak vs strong/unsafe_unretained). You may not realize this is a killer feature, but it is, it makes your apps function in cleaner ways, and allows more functionality to be correctly done done with less work. Additionally, the UI is tons easier to correctly customize, making apps more colorful with less custom graphics, making apps smaller. This means more apps can be downloaded OTA, and apps can have more stuff in them before hitting the OTA limit. Supporting iOS4 causes both of the above to be missing. I don't even want to talk about iOS 3, which makes it so you can't use ARC and Blocks, two of the things that make iOS dev much better today than it was 24 months ago.
- pooriaazimi 14y ago
  10.7 brought tons of new UI elements, including NSView-based NSTableView. Before Lion, it required a thousand lines of code (maybe more) to create something simple like this: http://gentlebytes.com/media/blog/2011/08/LionTableViewTesting-Phase4.png http://gentlebytes.com/media/blog/2011/08/LionTableViewTesti... Now, like on iOS, it's just a few lines of code. Take a look at these links: http://gentlebytes.com/2011/08/view-based-table-views-in-lion-part-1-of-2/ http://gentlebytes.com/2011/08/view-based-table-views-in-lio... http://gentlebytes.com/2011/08/view-based-table-views-in-lion-part-2-of-2/ http://gentlebytes.com/2011/08/view-based-table-views-in-lio... ----- http://oleb.net/blog/2011/07/whats-new-for-developers-in-lion-part-1/ http://oleb.net/blog/2011/07/whats-new-for-developers-in-lio... http://oleb.net/blog/2011/08/whats-new-for-developers-in-lion-part-2/ http://oleb.net/blog/2011/08/whats-new-for-developers-in-lio... http://oleb.net/blog/2011/08/whats-new-for-developers-in-lion-part-3/ http://oleb.net/blog/2011/08/whats-new-for-developers-in-lio...

16 points by rjstelling 14y ago

It would be nice to see some justification for this matrix. I did some googling, and though I was surprised at seeing the 3G recommended for 'No Support', the data would seem to back that up: http://www.14oranges.com/2012/04/ios-version-statistics-april-14th-2012/ http://www.14oranges.com/2012/04/ios-version-statistics-apri...

rjstelling 14y ago
Great point, I'll start to jot down my reasons. But mainly fall into two categories; features and cost/benefit. For example every ~6 weeks Apple sell more iPhone 4S than total number of iOS 4 devices still in use.

fbomb 14y ago

What happened to iPods?

rjstelling 14y ago
I hear you, draft 2 coming up!
gte910h 14y ago
iPodTouches go with the generation of phone they are the same generation of. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 I suggest release date to figure that out.

kalleboo 14y ago

We're also not supporting the original iPad on some new apps since the hardware is too underpowered to deliver great performance, and we believe it'll quickly become a liability in the future (better to have not supported it from the beginning than having to drop support a few versions down the line).

luigiwallo 14y ago

This graphic needs more context/metrics. Are these judgments made on past trends? Usage numbers? Something like how MacRumors buying guide averages out past release schedules to determine the next likely update: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

rjstelling 14y ago
I'm sourcing some stats to add this, but up-to-date reliable iOS stats are as easy to find as unicorn tears.

densh 14y ago

It's easy understand that developers don't really want support older platforms as that might be quite of a burden. But please don't drop support if you can. Not everyone likes updating to newest version of OS on their phone all the time especially if there are no significant changes coming. (IMO There haven't been any killer features in 5.x and 6.x revisions of iOS.) The thing that annoys me most is Mac applications that don't support 10.6 any more even though that's shoudn't be hard at all as desktop APIs are quite stable and don't change much. Or applications that support full screen only on 10.7. (Seriously, Evernote?)

gte910h 14y ago
iOS 5 has a far less buggy memory management system (strong/weak vs strong/unsafe_unretained). You may not realize this is a killer feature, but it is, it makes your apps function in cleaner ways, and allows more functionality to be correctly done done with less work. Additionally, the UI is tons easier to correctly customize, making apps more colorful with less custom graphics, making apps smaller. This means more apps can be downloaded OTA, and apps can have more stuff in them before hitting the OTA limit. Supporting iOS4 causes both of the above to be missing. I don't even want to talk about iOS 3, which makes it so you can't use ARC and Blocks, two of the things that make iOS dev much better today than it was 24 months ago.
pooriaazimi 14y ago
10.7 brought tons of new UI elements, including NSView-based NSTableView. Before Lion, it required a thousand lines of code (maybe more) to create something simple like this: http://gentlebytes.com/media/blog/2011/08/LionTableViewTesting-Phase4.png http://gentlebytes.com/media/blog/2011/08/LionTableViewTesti... Now, like on iOS, it's just a few lines of code. Take a look at these links: http://gentlebytes.com/2011/08/view-based-table-views-in-lion-part-1-of-2/ http://gentlebytes.com/2011/08/view-based-table-views-in-lio... http://gentlebytes.com/2011/08/view-based-table-views-in-lion-part-2-of-2/ http://gentlebytes.com/2011/08/view-based-table-views-in-lio... ----- http://oleb.net/blog/2011/07/whats-new-for-developers-in-lion-part-1/ http://oleb.net/blog/2011/07/whats-new-for-developers-in-lio... http://oleb.net/blog/2011/08/whats-new-for-developers-in-lion-part-2/ http://oleb.net/blog/2011/08/whats-new-for-developers-in-lio... http://oleb.net/blog/2011/08/whats-new-for-developers-in-lion-part-3/ http://oleb.net/blog/2011/08/whats-new-for-developers-in-lio...