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People are just using it wrong, it’s the only good mouse for macOS. The memes and the hate is baseless, you are not supposed to lay your hand over the mouse but
by mrtksn 2y ago
People are just using it wrong, it’s the only good mouse for macOS. The memes and the hate is baseless, you are not supposed to lay your hand over the mouse but move it around by gently holding by the sides and utilize the touch surfaces for Mac gestures with your fingers. Then you can just rest your hands on the table, which makes it very ergonomic.
My guess is that Tim Cook can’t use it the right way because he is likely using a lot of Microsoft Excel, which is made for the Windows UI paradigm.
- from-nibly 2y agoClassic Apple cope.
- MeetingsBrowser 2y agoPeople are using it wrong, by trying to do normal things with it? What UI paradigm shift does Numbers have that makes it well suited for the Magic Mouse?
- mrtksn 2y agoI don’t know if Number is utilizing the Mac gestures, if not it’s on them. However the entire macOS UI is heavily using swipe gestures, which is only possible with touch surfaces. That’s also why touchpads work great on Mac. I can’t use anything other than Safari and Touchpad or Magic Mouse because I too often use the swipe slightly back to reveal the previous page to check something that I need on the current page. If my Magic Mouse breaks down, I’m immediately getting a new one.
- thiht 2y ago> using swipe gestures, which is only possible with touch surfaces Wrong. The Logitech Master MX emulates gestures with a thumb button + mouse motion.
- Sir_Twist 2y agoIt might be more productive if you went into how you think people are using it incorrectly, ie. how you view it is "supposed" to be used in macOS.
- MeetingsBrowser 2y agoThe ideal way to use the Magic Mouse is to heavily rely on keyboard navigation
- defrost 2y agoBest viewed from such a distance it dwindles to a point?
- mrtksn 2y agoAll the complaints I’ve seen are from people laying their entire hands on the mouse and expecting to rest their hands on top of it. This is the wrong way, IMHO. I added a bit more detail to the original comment.
- Sir_Twist 2y agoThanks for the explanation! I haven't seen someone use a mouse like that before, very interesting.
- kelnos 2y agoAh yes, the classic Apple, "there's nothing wrong with the product, you're just holding it wrong". Even if that is actually true, Apple's inability educate users in how to use the device properly is a failure all of its own.
- jsheard 2y ago> Then you can just rest your hands on the table, which makes it very ergonomic. Having your hands flat on the table is the opposite of ergonomic, that's how you end up with carpal tunnel. Proper ergonomic input devices try to keep your hands rotated at least 45-degrees-ish from the surface.
- mrtksn 2y agoSee, you’re rest your hands on the table with the outer edge of your pals and wrists touching the table. You hold it with your pinky/ring finger and the thumb and use the middle and index fingers for the click and the gestures when needed. It’s quite comfortable, your hands stay at the same position with those ergonomic Logitech mice.
- jsheard 2y agoThe MX Master mentioned in the OP is only kinda-ergonomic, this is what fully ergonomic looks like: https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.910-005447.html https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-vertical-erg... Likewise with ergonomic keyboards which usually tilt upwards in the middle so your wrists aren't flat: https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/adv360pro/ https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/adv360pro/ https://dygma.com/pages/defy https://dygma.com/pages/defy
- mrtksn 2y agoThat’s exactly how my hands rest on the table most of the times when I’m using the Magic Mouse.
- krackers 2y agoAt that point just use the magic trackpad.
- catlover76 2y ago[dead]
- akira2501 2y ago> People are just using it wrong Oh. I broke my arm 5 years ago. I use everything "wrong" now. I have no other choice. I've come to absolutely hate products and designers that can't grok this basic fact of life.
- herpdyderp 2y agoI would love a video of this because I can’t figure out what you’re talking about and I’d love to give the Magic Mouse another chance.
- thiht 2y ago> it’s the only good mouse for macOS Besides the magic mouse being a terrible mouse (the usage instructions you describe don't actually work, I used it for a few months and got awful cramps, and swiping a mouse is not ergonomic at all), the Master MX 3s is amazing to use on macOS. The thumb button allows to replicate the touchpad gestures in a much more ergonomic way than the magic mouse.