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>Or just that he prefers the one he is using instead for whatever reason. Well, that means he finds the Apple one worse "for whatever reason". He doesn't need

>Or just that he prefers the one he is using instead for whatever reason. Well, that means he finds the Apple one worse "for whatever reason". He doesn't need to find it objectively bad (though one could, as well) for this to be a concern. It's enough of an issue that he doesn't have enough fondness, faith, and pride in it to use it, or enough resolve to get his company to improve it.

renewiltord 2y ago
Worse, yes. But the title reads "so bad". I don't know if it's "so bad" and shit like that. I use a Logitech G502 wireless personally because I like the way it fits my hand. I've owned all sorts of others like the Madcatz RAT that I've liked or simpler ones that I haven't. That doesn't mean I think the MX Master is "so bad" I'd rather use the G502. Bunch of people all losing their minds over simple shit haha. Oh no, his Apple T-shirt is so bad he's wearing a Zegna shirt! It's a Sunday, my dudes.
- coldtea 2y ago
  >Oh no, his Apple T-shirt is so bad he's wearing a Zegna shirt! It's a Sunday, my dudes. Apple makes and sells mice as part of their business, my dude. Any t-shirts they make is just a secondary thing for the merchandise store. Making their software and hardware good enough for them to use and "eating their own dog food" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food ) is important.
  - renewiltord 2y ago
    This is cargo cult business from people who learn all they do about tech from startup bloggers.
    - coldtea 2y ago
      You might have learned it from startup bloggers. Dogfooding has a big history in Sillicon Valley and kinds of software development culture way before blogging was a thing. Before the web was a thing too. It was a thing people explicitly referred to before it even had that name. So there's that.
      - renewiltord 2y ago
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        coldtea 2y ago
        Take your brickbats. I don't run one now, but I used to. All of this is irrelevant (and ad hominem) by the way. The situation is simple: Apple doesn't make a mouse good enough for its CEO. It's as embarassing as if a Dell CEO used a Macbook. Whether that's still fine business-wise ("we still sell millions of our own mice to less discerning folks") is irrelevant. We're criticizing their mouse quality and commitment to making a good product, not their money making abilities.
        renewiltord 2y ago
        It's not really that embarrassing. My dad's a surgeon: fits femoral nails. I've had fractures. Didn't put a femoral nail in me. Just wasn't a fracture that needed a nail. Not embarrassing that guy who spends every day putting in femoral nails decided not to put a femoral nail in when it came to his son. I think you're being silly about this because you've committed to this bit. If you make something for someone else, doesn't mean you need that thing. You might even need a different thing. I don't get why this is such a big deal. But, well, I was wrong about you running a company. Maybe I'm wrong about this. I'll drop it. I have a feeling you'll look back many years later and wonder why you thought this. But maybe not.

renewiltord 2y ago

Worse, yes. But the title reads "so bad". I don't know if it's "so bad" and shit like that. I use a Logitech G502 wireless personally because I like the way it fits my hand. I've owned all sorts of others like the Madcatz RAT that I've liked or simpler ones that I haven't. That doesn't mean I think the MX Master is "so bad" I'd rather use the G502. Bunch of people all losing their minds over simple shit haha. Oh no, his Apple T-shirt is so bad he's wearing a Zegna shirt! It's a Sunday, my dudes.

coldtea 2y ago
>Oh no, his Apple T-shirt is so bad he's wearing a Zegna shirt! It's a Sunday, my dudes. Apple makes and sells mice as part of their business, my dude. Any t-shirts they make is just a secondary thing for the merchandise store. Making their software and hardware good enough for them to use and "eating their own dog food" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food ) is important.
- renewiltord 2y ago
  This is cargo cult business from people who learn all they do about tech from startup bloggers.
  - coldtea 2y ago
    You might have learned it from startup bloggers. Dogfooding has a big history in Sillicon Valley and kinds of software development culture way before blogging was a thing. Before the web was a thing too. It was a thing people explicitly referred to before it even had that name. So there's that.
    - renewiltord 2y ago
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      - coldtea 2y ago
        Take your brickbats. I don't run one now, but I used to. All of this is irrelevant (and ad hominem) by the way. The situation is simple: Apple doesn't make a mouse good enough for its CEO. It's as embarassing as if a Dell CEO used a Macbook. Whether that's still fine business-wise ("we still sell millions of our own mice to less discerning folks") is irrelevant. We're criticizing their mouse quality and commitment to making a good product, not their money making abilities.
        renewiltord 2y ago
        It's not really that embarrassing. My dad's a surgeon: fits femoral nails. I've had fractures. Didn't put a femoral nail in me. Just wasn't a fracture that needed a nail. Not embarrassing that guy who spends every day putting in femoral nails decided not to put a femoral nail in when it came to his son. I think you're being silly about this because you've committed to this bit. If you make something for someone else, doesn't mean you need that thing. You might even need a different thing. I don't get why this is such a big deal. But, well, I was wrong about you running a company. Maybe I'm wrong about this. I'll drop it. I have a feeling you'll look back many years later and wonder why you thought this. But maybe not.