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Wow, what a clickbaity title. The article just states that Tim Cook prefers a different mouse than Apples's own Magic Mouse. Now that might be because he finds

Wow, what a clickbaity title. The article just states that Tim Cook prefers a different mouse than Apples's own Magic Mouse. Now that might be because he finds the Magic Mouse bad. Or just that he prefers the one he is using instead for whatever reason. Actually the article even mentions he sometimes uses the Magic Mouse, so it can't be all that bad in his estimation? Granted, some people love to hate on the Magic Mouse. Perhaps it is bad (I also prefer different mice). I am happy to discuss it. But does it really have to be framed like that? This makes me want to skip over anything that site produces, I just can't take it serious.

jdietrich 2y ago
Would Steve Jobs have made a product that he didn't personally like?
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  Who made the puck mouse?
- Tagbert 2y ago
  The Magic Mouse first shipped while Steve was CEO. Presumably he did like it.
coldtea 2y ago
>Or just that he prefers the one he is using instead for whatever reason. Well, that means he finds the Apple one worse "for whatever reason". He doesn't need to find it objectively bad (though one could, as well) for this to be a concern. It's enough of an issue that he doesn't have enough fondness, faith, and pride in it to use it, or enough resolve to get his company to improve it.
- renewiltord 2y ago
  Worse, yes. But the title reads "so bad". I don't know if it's "so bad" and shit like that. I use a Logitech G502 wireless personally because I like the way it fits my hand. I've owned all sorts of others like the Madcatz RAT that I've liked or simpler ones that I haven't. That doesn't mean I think the MX Master is "so bad" I'd rather use the G502. Bunch of people all losing their minds over simple shit haha. Oh no, his Apple T-shirt is so bad he's wearing a Zegna shirt! It's a Sunday, my dudes.
  - coldtea 2y ago
    >Oh no, his Apple T-shirt is so bad he's wearing a Zegna shirt! It's a Sunday, my dudes. Apple makes and sells mice as part of their business, my dude. Any t-shirts they make is just a secondary thing for the merchandise store. Making their software and hardware good enough for them to use and "eating their own dog food" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food ) is important.
    - renewiltord 2y ago
      This is cargo cult business from people who learn all they do about tech from startup bloggers.
      - coldtea 2y ago
        You might have learned it from startup bloggers. Dogfooding has a big history in Sillicon Valley and kinds of software development culture way before blogging was a thing. Before the web was a thing too. It was a thing people explicitly referred to before it even had that name. So there's that.
        renewiltord 2y ago
        [flagged]
        coldtea 2y ago
        Take your brickbats. I don't run one now, but I used to. All of this is irrelevant (and ad hominem) by the way. The situation is simple: Apple doesn't make a mouse good enough for its CEO. It's as embarassing as if a Dell CEO used a Macbook. Whether that's still fine business-wise ("we still sell millions of our own mice to less discerning folks") is irrelevant. We're criticizing their mouse quality and commitment to making a good product, not their money making abilities.
Dalewyn 2y ago
>Tim Cook prefers a different mouse than Apples's own Magic Mouse. >But does it really have to be framed like that? Eating your own dog food is a very important metric of product quality.
- llm_nerd 2y ago
  Mice are very hand and task specific. It's why we have a market full of significantly different mice with different features, sizes and forms. Apple sells one mouse so it is impossible they could serve all users optimally. Maybe they should sell other styles of mice, but it is a pretty saturated market covered by a lot of low margin players.

jdietrich 2y ago

Would Steve Jobs have made a product that he didn't personally like?

thaumasiotes 2y ago
Who made the puck mouse?
Tagbert 2y ago
The Magic Mouse first shipped while Steve was CEO. Presumably he did like it.

coldtea 2y ago

>Or just that he prefers the one he is using instead for whatever reason. Well, that means he finds the Apple one worse "for whatever reason". He doesn't need to find it objectively bad (though one could, as well) for this to be a concern. It's enough of an issue that he doesn't have enough fondness, faith, and pride in it to use it, or enough resolve to get his company to improve it.

renewiltord 2y ago
Worse, yes. But the title reads "so bad". I don't know if it's "so bad" and shit like that. I use a Logitech G502 wireless personally because I like the way it fits my hand. I've owned all sorts of others like the Madcatz RAT that I've liked or simpler ones that I haven't. That doesn't mean I think the MX Master is "so bad" I'd rather use the G502. Bunch of people all losing their minds over simple shit haha. Oh no, his Apple T-shirt is so bad he's wearing a Zegna shirt! It's a Sunday, my dudes.
- coldtea 2y ago
  >Oh no, his Apple T-shirt is so bad he's wearing a Zegna shirt! It's a Sunday, my dudes. Apple makes and sells mice as part of their business, my dude. Any t-shirts they make is just a secondary thing for the merchandise store. Making their software and hardware good enough for them to use and "eating their own dog food" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food ) is important.
  - renewiltord 2y ago
    This is cargo cult business from people who learn all they do about tech from startup bloggers.
    - coldtea 2y ago
      You might have learned it from startup bloggers. Dogfooding has a big history in Sillicon Valley and kinds of software development culture way before blogging was a thing. Before the web was a thing too. It was a thing people explicitly referred to before it even had that name. So there's that.
      - renewiltord 2y ago
        [flagged]
        coldtea 2y ago
        Take your brickbats. I don't run one now, but I used to. All of this is irrelevant (and ad hominem) by the way. The situation is simple: Apple doesn't make a mouse good enough for its CEO. It's as embarassing as if a Dell CEO used a Macbook. Whether that's still fine business-wise ("we still sell millions of our own mice to less discerning folks") is irrelevant. We're criticizing their mouse quality and commitment to making a good product, not their money making abilities.

Dalewyn 2y ago

>Tim Cook prefers a different mouse than Apples's own Magic Mouse. >But does it really have to be framed like that? Eating your own dog food is a very important metric of product quality.

llm_nerd 2y ago
Mice are very hand and task specific. It's why we have a market full of significantly different mice with different features, sizes and forms. Apple sells one mouse so it is impossible they could serve all users optimally. Maybe they should sell other styles of mice, but it is a pretty saturated market covered by a lot of low margin players.