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> Did Reddit/HN or any other link aggregator take away news sites? That's all RSS is. Both of those have thriving comment sections and would be completely irre

> Did Reddit/HN or any other link aggregator take away news sites? That's all RSS is. Both of those have thriving comment sections and would be completely irreverent without them. Further, it's a known problem for both of those sites that people will not read the article and instead riff of the title. I'd wager the final 50% of every article could be removed and it wouldn't significantly change the comment sections here. > Similar to how users "chose" to use the official reddit app when they removed 90% of third party ones. Yes they did, they chose to use those apps and chose to continue using Reddit in general despite its shitty behaviour. The alternatives just aren't good enough.

johnnyanmac 2y ago
>Both of those have thriving comment sections and would be completely irreverent without them. Yes. And you can use RSS feed to do the same thing, either liking to a reddit comment section or actually reading the article and not bothering. Same structure except you're not limited to Reddit's servers. >they chose to use those apps and chose to continue using Reddit in general despite its shitty behaviour They lost choice and decided using the worst choice was better than moving off of Reddit. I guess if enshiftification is "choice", They did indeed choose. I chose to walk away. And it's why I hate centralizafion. Because it reduces you down to two choices per owner. Their way or the highway. If you instead managed an RSS feed of a dozen websites and Reddit removed its API, your daily feed may be smaller but your browsing habits would not change. I can still interact with the other 11 sites as much as I want and not need extra time trying to figure out what's out there.
- _aavaa_ 2y ago
  I’m not disagreeing with you about the issues of centralization. I too walked away from Reddit and paid that cost. My point is that (a) many people have not despite the cess pit Reddit and other sites have become, and (b) RSS is inherently incapable of replacing the experience because it’s a pull only mechanism. Mastadon based itself on ActivityPub, not RSS. We’ll see if the long term forces that consolidated and entities Twitter and it’s ilk will do the same to Mastadon instances. Cause I’m still not convinced that the general public is willing to or ready to run their own servers

johnnyanmac 2y ago

>Both of those have thriving comment sections and would be completely irreverent without them. Yes. And you can use RSS feed to do the same thing, either liking to a reddit comment section or actually reading the article and not bothering. Same structure except you're not limited to Reddit's servers. >they chose to use those apps and chose to continue using Reddit in general despite its shitty behaviour They lost choice and decided using the worst choice was better than moving off of Reddit. I guess if enshiftification is "choice", They did indeed choose. I chose to walk away. And it's why I hate centralizafion. Because it reduces you down to two choices per owner. Their way or the highway. If you instead managed an RSS feed of a dozen websites and Reddit removed its API, your daily feed may be smaller but your browsing habits would not change. I can still interact with the other 11 sites as much as I want and not need extra time trying to figure out what's out there.

_aavaa_ 2y ago
I’m not disagreeing with you about the issues of centralization. I too walked away from Reddit and paid that cost. My point is that (a) many people have not despite the cess pit Reddit and other sites have become, and (b) RSS is inherently incapable of replacing the experience because it’s a pull only mechanism. Mastadon based itself on ActivityPub, not RSS. We’ll see if the long term forces that consolidated and entities Twitter and it’s ilk will do the same to Mastadon instances. Cause I’m still not convinced that the general public is willing to or ready to run their own servers