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Are those figures per capita for consumers or producers? Is Saudi Arabia scoring high because of the oil industry? > Guess what's going to happen and who is go
by blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
Are those figures per capita for consumers or producers? Is Saudi Arabia scoring high because of the oil industry?
> Guess what's going to happen and who is going to suffer, despite not doing anything.
Low income countries also don’t have good tracking or data. I’ve seen lots of practices in developing countries that are really damaging environmentally (GHGs and other things) that probably don’t get reported or tracked anywhere, because they’re so local (things like illegal refineries, manufacturing operations with no waste disposal, stubble burning, etc). But they exist. In part those damaging practices are here because of globalism (economic pressure) and changing lifestyles, so it’s not their fault. But my point is we probably just need a global reduction in luxury and quality of life ultimately.
- abdullahkhalids 2y agoThese are consumption based numbers. So any oil that Saudi Arabia exports that is then burned elsewhere is counted in the other country's number. Yes, there are uncertainties in these numbers, and it is quite unfortunate that OWID does not state them. However, I don't think the uncertainties are that high. Emissions from fossil fuel burning or agriculture are most of global emissions (>90%) and are quite easy to track in bulk.
- speakfreely 2y ago> But my point is we probably just need a global reduction in luxury and quality of life ultimately. Of all proposed political policies, "degrowth" is the standout for being the most ludicrous ask of developing countries. A lot of people don't like hearing it, but human quality of life on a global scale is measured in energy consumption. Trying to convince anyone to accept a lower quality of life, especially people who were subsistence farmers a generation ago, is a losing proposition.