13 years. Lottery winner perspective! Also, I'd guess (I never knew anyone at AWS) that AWS was better than Amazon, especially it's sweet profit margins behind

13 years. Lottery winner perspective! Also, I'd guess (I never knew anyone at AWS) that AWS was better than Amazon, especially it's sweet profit margins behind the scenes. Thirteen years implies you probably joined and still had exposure to upper reaches of management, as opposed to ten years later where some new hire is a pissant with 20 layers of management separating them, and 10 years of "raising the bar" or as I would like to call it "upping the hazing" that will impact new and lower levels before the politically insulated.