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I understand the moderators working for the big social networks have a terrible job and often see the worst the internet has to offer. Who is going to do that
by luckylion 2y ago
I understand the moderators working for the big social networks have a terrible job and often see the worst the internet has to offer.
Who is going to do that job as a volunteer? Or is that expected to be solved by technology? Hard to imagine them achieving what Google, Facebook etc could not reliably.
- dartos 2y agoThe internet has been run on volunteer moderators for a long long long long long time.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoindeed. and I think the one thing we can agree on is that moderation does not scale gracefully. We aren't in the 00's anymore.
- bdangubic 2y agoyou really think Google/Facebook/… can’t do it reliably? :-)
- moogly 2y agoAs an example, Facebook has a sordid history of leaving actual snuff movies up for days.
- bdangubic 2y agoif there are no reprocussions businesses won’t do jacksh*t but if there were, FB/Google/… would solve any issue like this by the time teapot started whistling… it is one thing to say they “can’t” vs. “the won’t cause they no reason to”
- luckylion 2y agoI mean they cannot do it _automatically_ with high certainty, which is why they hire companies to do it for them, who then make employees look at suspected problematic content / reported content. I'm sure Google and Facebook wouldn't pay these companies if they could achieve similar results without them.
- VancouverMan 2y agoSome people seem to get immense satisfaction and pleasure out of censoring other people online. It's something I've seen time and time again, in a wide variety of discussions forums, for decades now. Such people will happily do it for free, and they're willing to dedicate many hours per day to it, too. I don't understand their motivation(s), but perhaps it simply gives them a sense of power, control, or influence that they otherwise don't have in their lives outside of the Internet.
- wmf 2y agoThose people should never be allowed to moderate anything for obvious reasons.
- kiba 2y agoModeration. It's a thankless job. I supposed blocking spam counts as censorship.
- darkerside 2y agoPraying he doesn't take this the wrong way, but perhaps /u/dang would be so kind as to weigh in? I don't equate what he does on a daily basis to censoring, but I'm certain it constitutes a part of the job (after all, this is the Internet, and I'm sure there's all manner of trash making an appearance on occasion). Furthermore, I would posit that there's a bit of overlap between censorship and moderation -- even excellent moderation -- although I welcome any nuance I'm missing on this topic. Moreover, while I hope he is compensated well enough, I imagine this was initially, if not any longer, a job that demanded effort disproportionate to the monetary reward. What would keep someone interested in such a job and naturally driven to perform it well? Coming from a place of curiosity, meaning no offense, and happy to let this comment slip quietly away to a back room to sit alone if that's what it merits.
- astrange 2y ago> Furthermore, I would posit that there's a bit of overlap between censorship and moderation -- even excellent moderation -- although I welcome any nuance I'm missing on this topic. You aren't missing anything. Many people have oppositional defiance disorder and have never used an unmoderated forum; they are completely unusable because they're full of spam.
- PontifexMinimus 2y ago> Who is going to do that job as a volunteer There could be a system whereby if you see something bad in your feed you can report it.