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Delivering 15TB of 4K video with Cloudflare R2 for $2.18

70 points by peter_d_sherman 2y ago

peter_d_sherman 2y ago
Related: https://x.com/steve_tenuto/status/1857523923509981437 https://x.com/steve_tenuto/status/1857523923509981437
jauntywundrkind 2y ago
$2.18 / 0.015$/GB*mo comes to 143 GB months of store data. This would ignore the upload costs and any API costs.
pjfin123 2y ago
Cloudflare R2 has been huge for my open source project Argos Translate. Two years ago I was getting swamped with $250/mo+ bandwidth bills for a project with minimal revenue. Now I distribute 10TB+ per month of model weights for $0. I'm still on the free plan
- noman-land 2y ago
  Do you have any documentation of this endeavor? Or some bulleted tips? I'd like to do something similar.
  - pjfin123 2y ago
    This is where I'm using the CDN: https://github.com/argosopentech/argospm-index/blob/main/index.json https://github.com/argosopentech/argospm-index/blob/main/ind... R2 is easy to use. I think there's an API but I just manually upload files in the Cloudflare dashboard. I had some issues with the default .dev domain Cloudflare gives you so I bought a custom domain. https://community.libretranslate.com/t/failing-to-download-from-cloudflare-with-connectionrefusederror/960/13 https://community.libretranslate.com/t/failing-to-download-f...
ndiddy 2y ago
The article title is somewhat misleading. The "15 terabyte" figure refers to the amount of bandwidth used, not the amount of video being stored (it's closer to 145 GB).
- KomoD 2y ago
  It's not misleading at all, they are delivering 15TB of video for $2.18. It doesn't say they're storing 15TB for $2.18, it says they're delivering it.
langsoul-com 2y ago
This price is solely to deliver 15tb of video. Don't get confused like other commenter.
mappu 2y ago
Depending on your content, switching from `-preset veryfast` to `veryslow` could let you drop the bitrate by as much as 20-30% at the same visual quality. Your users will thank you for it,
john-baker-11 2y ago
Good read. I thought you were talking about cloudflare stream which charges similar to other comparisons you drew in the blog. This works because you dont have complexity of real time encoding, muxing. It quickly becomes a complex infra to manage if we do that ourselves. I am curious what CDN are you using and what are rough configs?
Tiberium 2y ago
Can anyone explain how this is possible when most other providers charge huge costs for egress? Is Cloudflare operating at a loss here?
- jjeaff 2y ago
  Bandwidth is cheap. Other operators are charging enormous margins.
- josevalerio 2y ago
  https://blog.cloudflare.com/aws-egregious-egress/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/aws-egregious-egress/
- bigfatkitten 2y ago
  Because cloud egress charges are a massive rort. Cloudflare, along with AWS, Google and GCP are big enough destinations that they pay almost nothing for bandwidth. Unlike the others, Cloudflare charges accordingly. They are such huge destinations that other network operators come to them and say "peer with me pls senpai".

peter_d_sherman 2y ago

Related: https://x.com/steve_tenuto/status/1857523923509981437 https://x.com/steve_tenuto/status/1857523923509981437

jauntywundrkind 2y ago

$2.18 / 0.015$/GB*mo comes to 143 GB months of store data. This would ignore the upload costs and any API costs.

pjfin123 2y ago

Cloudflare R2 has been huge for my open source project Argos Translate. Two years ago I was getting swamped with $250/mo+ bandwidth bills for a project with minimal revenue. Now I distribute 10TB+ per month of model weights for $0. I'm still on the free plan

noman-land 2y ago
Do you have any documentation of this endeavor? Or some bulleted tips? I'd like to do something similar.
- pjfin123 2y ago
  This is where I'm using the CDN: https://github.com/argosopentech/argospm-index/blob/main/index.json https://github.com/argosopentech/argospm-index/blob/main/ind... R2 is easy to use. I think there's an API but I just manually upload files in the Cloudflare dashboard. I had some issues with the default .dev domain Cloudflare gives you so I bought a custom domain. https://community.libretranslate.com/t/failing-to-download-from-cloudflare-with-connectionrefusederror/960/13 https://community.libretranslate.com/t/failing-to-download-f...

ndiddy 2y ago

The article title is somewhat misleading. The "15 terabyte" figure refers to the amount of bandwidth used, not the amount of video being stored (it's closer to 145 GB).

KomoD 2y ago
It's not misleading at all, they are delivering 15TB of video for $2.18. It doesn't say they're storing 15TB for $2.18, it says they're delivering it.

langsoul-com 2y ago

This price is solely to deliver 15tb of video. Don't get confused like other commenter.

mappu 2y ago

Depending on your content, switching from `-preset veryfast` to `veryslow` could let you drop the bitrate by as much as 20-30% at the same visual quality. Your users will thank you for it,

john-baker-11 2y ago

Good read. I thought you were talking about cloudflare stream which charges similar to other comparisons you drew in the blog. This works because you dont have complexity of real time encoding, muxing. It quickly becomes a complex infra to manage if we do that ourselves. I am curious what CDN are you using and what are rough configs?

Tiberium 2y ago

Can anyone explain how this is possible when most other providers charge huge costs for egress? Is Cloudflare operating at a loss here?

jjeaff 2y ago
Bandwidth is cheap. Other operators are charging enormous margins.
josevalerio 2y ago
https://blog.cloudflare.com/aws-egregious-egress/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/aws-egregious-egress/
bigfatkitten 2y ago
Because cloud egress charges are a massive rort. Cloudflare, along with AWS, Google and GCP are big enough destinations that they pay almost nothing for bandwidth. Unlike the others, Cloudflare charges accordingly. They are such huge destinations that other network operators come to them and say "peer with me pls senpai".