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You're sidestepping because morality is inconveniently annoying. How would you feel if your 8 year old child spent hours playing FarmVille? She thinks it is mo

You're sidestepping because morality is inconveniently annoying. How would you feel if your 8 year old child spent hours playing FarmVille? She thinks it is more fun than playing outside or with her friends. Now what do you think about a company that claps with glee upon hearing the above?

saraid216 14y ago
Not really. I fully agree that Zynga is evil. Their CEO says so; it's hard to get more authoritative than that. As someone who knows a fair bit about game design, pedagogy, programming, and philosophy, I generally find Zynga and its products to be a dirty stain slightly worse than the wide, wide gamut of bad porn. That said, I don't stoop to emotion-driven fallacies when taking a look at these things. I actually bother with knowing what I'm talking about. But to actually answer your question, My children enjoy Farmville and their ilk, and also spends time playing outside and with their friends. It is not ruining their lives. I may find their tastes discouraging, but their tastes are not immoral according to the moral system I've personally adopted and hope to pass on. I will say it's amusing to be lectured on morality by "eevilspock".
- eevilspock 14y ago
  I do have an evil goatee. Actually it's extremely apt if you ever saw that Star Trek episode and understand Evil Spock's original Machiavellan attitude and his revelation at the end. You labeling my statement and/or the article author's an "emotion-driven fallacy" is amazingly obnoxious rhetoric. The line that follows is even worse. No one claimed that choosing to play FarmVille is immoral. Talk about logical fallacy. Discussions of morals and values are by definition emotion-driven. "I actually bother with knowing what I talk about." Yuch.
  - saraid216 14y ago
    > Discussions of morals and values are by definition emotion-driven. Pop quiz. What are the four main types of ethical systems? Explain how "clapping with glee" figures into each one.
    - eevilspock 14y ago
      Pop quiz. What is a douchebag?

saraid216 14y ago

Not really. I fully agree that Zynga is evil. Their CEO says so; it's hard to get more authoritative than that. As someone who knows a fair bit about game design, pedagogy, programming, and philosophy, I generally find Zynga and its products to be a dirty stain slightly worse than the wide, wide gamut of bad porn. That said, I don't stoop to emotion-driven fallacies when taking a look at these things. I actually bother with knowing what I'm talking about. But to actually answer your question, My children enjoy Farmville and their ilk, and also spends time playing outside and with their friends. It is not ruining their lives. I may find their tastes discouraging, but their tastes are not immoral according to the moral system I've personally adopted and hope to pass on. I will say it's amusing to be lectured on morality by "eevilspock".

eevilspock 14y ago
I do have an evil goatee. Actually it's extremely apt if you ever saw that Star Trek episode and understand Evil Spock's original Machiavellan attitude and his revelation at the end. You labeling my statement and/or the article author's an "emotion-driven fallacy" is amazingly obnoxious rhetoric. The line that follows is even worse. No one claimed that choosing to play FarmVille is immoral. Talk about logical fallacy. Discussions of morals and values are by definition emotion-driven. "I actually bother with knowing what I talk about." Yuch.
- saraid216 14y ago
  > Discussions of morals and values are by definition emotion-driven. Pop quiz. What are the four main types of ethical systems? Explain how "clapping with glee" figures into each one.
  - eevilspock 14y ago
    Pop quiz. What is a douchebag?