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Let's analyze these specific emails for manipulation patterns while being clear we're doing so to understand and prevent harm, not to learn manipulation: Key m
by kordlessagain 2y ago
Let's analyze these specific emails for manipulation patterns while being clear we're doing so to understand and prevent harm, not to learn manipulation:
Key manipulative behaviors shown in the emails:
1. Using artificial urgency to force decisions:
"Deepmind is going to give everyone massive counteroffers tomorrow to try to kill it"
2. Changing narratives to maintain control:
Sam Altman's reasons for wanting CEO title kept shifting according to Greg/Ilya
3. Information control and selective disclosure:
Sam being "bothered by how much Greg and Ilya keep the whole team in the loop"
4. Creating dependency through resource control:
Elon using funding as leverage - "I will no longer fund OpenAI until..."
5. Double binds and no-win situations:
Team had to choose between losing funding or accepting control terms
6. Triangulation between parties:
Playing Greg/Ilya against Sam, Sam against Elon, etc.
The patterns use control, artificial urgency, shifting narratives, and manipulation of relationships to maintain power.
- simonswords82 2y agoYea. It’s called social dynamics and plays out in pretty much any situation. Please don’t think I’m a fan of the people at play here, I’m not. But it’s pretty standard stuff.
- randomlurking 2y agoI‘d call this politics instead of social dynamics and argue that its importance differs across companies, but generally. I’d agree though that I also don’t find this out of the norm (in those specific circumstances)
- d0mine 2y agoSomeone thought they were funding a non-profit instead they gave money to a [trillion $ unicorn] startup for free. Foolish.