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I don't think almost anyone actually want a headphone jack anymore. Just the consumer reality in 2024. I do obviously, but it's clearly too rare for them to bot

I don't think almost anyone actually want a headphone jack anymore. Just the consumer reality in 2024. I do obviously, but it's clearly too rare for them to bother with.

SoftTalker 2y ago
Yes people seem happy to buy not only new phones every couple of years but new accessory devices as well. I don't understand it but it's quite apparent.
- plufz 2y ago
  I find it very practical with small Bluetooth earbuds, but I agree on the consumption aspect of it. I really don’t like that I can’t change the batteries in my AirPods. I would even be semi-okay with having to hand in them to a technician for battery exchange, for a reasonable cost. But the current battery exchange for airpods is just another name for buying new earbuds. And the third party solutions that actually change the batteries cost about as much as new buds.
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plufz 2y ago
Why do you want a headphone jack? Not a rhetorical question, just genuine interest. Is it about audio quality, avoiding batteries or something else? I would find it so cumbersome to use a cable on a handheld device nowdays. But different things for different people! :)
- developerDan 2y ago
  Not who you are replying to but my $30 wired Apple earbuds (came with my 6S) have outlived all of my co-workers half dozen $160 AirPods. That’s reason enough for a lot of people.
  - mh- 2y ago
    For $8.99 you can buy a high quality USB-C (or lightning) DAC with a 3.5mm output directly from Apple. It's tiny and lightweight. I keep one in the back of my headphone case.
    - g8oz 2y ago
      There are never enough USB-C ports.
  - plufz 2y ago
    Yeah I agree, that is a very valid reason by itself.
  - lowbloodsugar 2y ago
    You can buy Apples wired earbuds with the lightning connector for $18. Or the lightning to 3.5mm adapter (that’s what I have because I also still have my decade old original earbuds).
- adra 2y ago
  I don't daily drive my phone for commuting anymore, but the trade-offs aren't exactly new: - battery frustrations - cost of a dozen cheap but good quality headphones vs a wireless equivalent - easier to lose wireless headsets when you put them down somewhere (wired too, but way cheaper so less big deal) - audio quality? Who knows For people that demand noise cancelling, you need an active power source, but I personally hate noise cancellation and always turn them off. Maybe valuable in a plane with lots of engine noise.
- ericd 2y ago
  My wired Shure in ear monitors have much better sound quality, and battery management on AirPods is pretty annoying. Even when they’re not running out mid-trip, it’s just unnecessary mental overhead to keep another thing charged.
- secondcoming 2y ago
  For me it’s because - I already have high quality earphones, same set for many years - they don’t require charging - audio quality is great - they’ll work on any device with a 3.5mm jack, no proprietary lock-ins - I have never lost a set of earphones and if I did replacement wouldn’t break the bank
- pishpash 2y ago
  Easier to store vs bulky charging case and charger and charger cable etc. The wired solution is more portable, believe it or not.
- PittleyDunkin 2y ago
  Simpler interface to debug and fix than bluetooth.

I don't think almost anyone actually want a headphone jack anymore. Just the consumer reality in 2024. I do obviously, but it's clearly too rare for them to bother with.

SoftTalker 2y ago

Yes people seem happy to buy not only new phones every couple of years but new accessory devices as well. I don't understand it but it's quite apparent.

plufz 2y ago
I find it very practical with small Bluetooth earbuds, but I agree on the consumption aspect of it. I really don’t like that I can’t change the batteries in my AirPods. I would even be semi-okay with having to hand in them to a technician for battery exchange, for a reasonable cost. But the current battery exchange for airpods is just another name for buying new earbuds. And the third party solutions that actually change the batteries cost about as much as new buds.
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plufz 2y ago

Why do you want a headphone jack? Not a rhetorical question, just genuine interest. Is it about audio quality, avoiding batteries or something else? I would find it so cumbersome to use a cable on a handheld device nowdays. But different things for different people! :)

developerDan 2y ago
Not who you are replying to but my $30 wired Apple earbuds (came with my 6S) have outlived all of my co-workers half dozen $160 AirPods. That’s reason enough for a lot of people.
- mh- 2y ago
  For $8.99 you can buy a high quality USB-C (or lightning) DAC with a 3.5mm output directly from Apple. It's tiny and lightweight. I keep one in the back of my headphone case.
  - g8oz 2y ago
    There are never enough USB-C ports.
- plufz 2y ago
  Yeah I agree, that is a very valid reason by itself.
- lowbloodsugar 2y ago
  You can buy Apples wired earbuds with the lightning connector for $18. Or the lightning to 3.5mm adapter (that’s what I have because I also still have my decade old original earbuds).
adra 2y ago
I don't daily drive my phone for commuting anymore, but the trade-offs aren't exactly new: - battery frustrations - cost of a dozen cheap but good quality headphones vs a wireless equivalent - easier to lose wireless headsets when you put them down somewhere (wired too, but way cheaper so less big deal) - audio quality? Who knows For people that demand noise cancelling, you need an active power source, but I personally hate noise cancellation and always turn them off. Maybe valuable in a plane with lots of engine noise.
ericd 2y ago
My wired Shure in ear monitors have much better sound quality, and battery management on AirPods is pretty annoying. Even when they’re not running out mid-trip, it’s just unnecessary mental overhead to keep another thing charged.
secondcoming 2y ago
For me it’s because - I already have high quality earphones, same set for many years - they don’t require charging - audio quality is great - they’ll work on any device with a 3.5mm jack, no proprietary lock-ins - I have never lost a set of earphones and if I did replacement wouldn’t break the bank
pishpash 2y ago
Easier to store vs bulky charging case and charger and charger cable etc. The wired solution is more portable, believe it or not.
PittleyDunkin 2y ago
Simpler interface to debug and fix than bluetooth.