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> The sharp rise in Dota bot performance is apparently causing people internally to worry that the timeline to AGI is sooner than they’d thought before. I do n

> The sharp rise in Dota bot performance is apparently causing people internally to worry that the timeline to AGI is sooner than they’d thought before. I do not see why one would worry about AGI just because there is a rise in bot performance. What kind of performance are we talking about? I have written bots for various games myself but never once I thought I am creating "intelligence" or that it would ever lead to that.

robertlagrant 2y ago
I think it's more like they're using a general-purpose intelligence (or intelligence-simulating) method that applies broadly to things, rather than creating a bespoke bot for a game that follows rules.
grugagag 2y ago
Im more worried of bots flooding all kinds of social media pushing public oppinion in the direction their owners want. I feel that this is already happening.
- threatripper 2y ago
  I'm pretty sure that LLMs already overpower the average arguing abilities of users on many platforms. Not even low resolution video calls are safe anymore to verify somebody is a real person.
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    That is true, we must assume nothing is genuine or authentic, video or audio. It used to be photos before, but it is no longer limited to images or photos anymore.
- thrw42A8N 2y ago
  That was happening for many years before any AI, and now that AI is well known people are finally starting to be sceptical. A positive development.
- libertine 2y ago
  It's happening already at a large scale: https://www.cyber.gc.ca/en/news-events/russian-state-sponsored-media-organization-leverages-ai-enhanced-meliorator-software-foreign-malign-influence-activity https://www.cyber.gc.ca/en/news-events/russian-state-sponsor...
fragmede 2y ago
Kurzgesagt had a bit on it in their AI video, but that game bot is specialized to your game, it doesn't generalize. OpenAI used a more general AI to drive dota. eg Deep Blue beat Kasparov (1997), but that was a narrow AI and couldn't play go or dota. https://youtu.be/fa8k8IQ1_X0 https://youtu.be/fa8k8IQ1_X0

robertlagrant 2y ago

I think it's more like they're using a general-purpose intelligence (or intelligence-simulating) method that applies broadly to things, rather than creating a bespoke bot for a game that follows rules.

grugagag 2y ago

Im more worried of bots flooding all kinds of social media pushing public oppinion in the direction their owners want. I feel that this is already happening.

threatripper 2y ago
I'm pretty sure that LLMs already overpower the average arguing abilities of users on many platforms. Not even low resolution video calls are safe anymore to verify somebody is a real person.
- johnisgood 2y ago
  That is true, we must assume nothing is genuine or authentic, video or audio. It used to be photos before, but it is no longer limited to images or photos anymore.
thrw42A8N 2y ago
That was happening for many years before any AI, and now that AI is well known people are finally starting to be sceptical. A positive development.
libertine 2y ago
It's happening already at a large scale: https://www.cyber.gc.ca/en/news-events/russian-state-sponsored-media-organization-leverages-ai-enhanced-meliorator-software-foreign-malign-influence-activity https://www.cyber.gc.ca/en/news-events/russian-state-sponsor...

fragmede 2y ago

Kurzgesagt had a bit on it in their AI video, but that game bot is specialized to your game, it doesn't generalize. OpenAI used a more general AI to drive dota. eg Deep Blue beat Kasparov (1997), but that was a narrow AI and couldn't play go or dota. https://youtu.be/fa8k8IQ1_X0 https://youtu.be/fa8k8IQ1_X0