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> The significance of witnesses to humans under various contexts could be explained by the importance of reputation management to our species. It could also be

> The significance of witnesses to humans under various contexts could be explained by the importance of reputation management to our species. It could also be explained as the researches accidentally recreating "Clever Hans." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans

hashishen 2y ago
'After 1916, there is no record of him and his fate is unknown, but he was drafted into World War I as a military horse and "killed in action in 1916 or was consumed by hungry soldiers"' I feel like regardless of confirmation behind how high the intellect of the horse was, this is no way him to go out. Hans truly loved him. This may sound dramatic but it feels like if my pet cat were to get killed in war and possibly eaten after i died
- SapporoChris 2y ago
  Got me curious about consumption of cat meat. https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/President-Trump-Signs-the-Farm-Bill-Making-Dog-and-Cat-Meat-Illegal-in-the-United-States-503308841.html https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/President-Trump-Signs-the-... Federal act signed in 2018 banning consumption of dog and cat meat. Was previously legal in 44 states.
  - hanniabu 2y ago
    Wouldn't it still be legal in 44 states? There's a federal ban on marijuana but it's legal in many states.
    - cnasc 2y ago
      Those states won’t themselves prosecute you for consuming cat (or cannabis), but that doesn’t mean the act of consumption is legal.
  - Loughla 2y ago
    Is there a reason? Like disease or something? Weird.
chunkyguy 2y ago
> After a formal investigation in 1907, psychologist Oskar Pfungst demonstrated that the horse was not actually performing these mental tasks, but was watching the reactions of his trainer. Sounds like machine learning
- namaria 2y ago
  Sounds like a failure mode in machine learning.
scotty79 2y ago
If the test was what the images in the paper suggest then chimps are way better at it than humans. So there's no way to borrow intelligence from the audience. https://youtu.be/zsXP8qeFF6A?si=GX0ldoWywMaCzEom https://youtu.be/zsXP8qeFF6A?si=GX0ldoWywMaCzEom
throwaway519 2y ago
Erudition signalling may be in full circle.

hashishen 2y ago

'After 1916, there is no record of him and his fate is unknown, but he was drafted into World War I as a military horse and "killed in action in 1916 or was consumed by hungry soldiers"' I feel like regardless of confirmation behind how high the intellect of the horse was, this is no way him to go out. Hans truly loved him. This may sound dramatic but it feels like if my pet cat were to get killed in war and possibly eaten after i died

SapporoChris 2y ago
Got me curious about consumption of cat meat. https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/President-Trump-Signs-the-Farm-Bill-Making-Dog-and-Cat-Meat-Illegal-in-the-United-States-503308841.html https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/President-Trump-Signs-the-... Federal act signed in 2018 banning consumption of dog and cat meat. Was previously legal in 44 states.
- hanniabu 2y ago
  Wouldn't it still be legal in 44 states? There's a federal ban on marijuana but it's legal in many states.
  - cnasc 2y ago
    Those states won’t themselves prosecute you for consuming cat (or cannabis), but that doesn’t mean the act of consumption is legal.
- Loughla 2y ago
  Is there a reason? Like disease or something? Weird.

chunkyguy 2y ago

> After a formal investigation in 1907, psychologist Oskar Pfungst demonstrated that the horse was not actually performing these mental tasks, but was watching the reactions of his trainer. Sounds like machine learning

namaria 2y ago
Sounds like a failure mode in machine learning.

scotty79 2y ago

If the test was what the images in the paper suggest then chimps are way better at it than humans. So there's no way to borrow intelligence from the audience. https://youtu.be/zsXP8qeFF6A?si=GX0ldoWywMaCzEom https://youtu.be/zsXP8qeFF6A?si=GX0ldoWywMaCzEom

throwaway519 2y ago

Erudition signalling may be in full circle.