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that’s totally unacceptable for live sports which people are able to bet on

dullcrisp 2y ago
Live sports require microwave relays for high frequency sports bets
rk06 2y ago
Why should they catering to such an audience in first place? I think this could be one of upsells that Netflix could use. Premium: get no delay Normal users: get cache and delay
- ctvo 2y ago
  Or, hear me out here, it's a wild concept, just work. You know, like every other broadcaster, streaming platform, and company that does live content has been able to do. Acting like this is a novel, hard problem that needs to be solved and we need to "upsell" it in tiers because Netflix is incompetent and live broadcasting hasn't been around for 80+ years is so fucking stupid.
  - kortilla 2y ago
    Every other live platform has a delay of multiple seconds
Brybry 2y ago
This is kind of silly because the delay between actual event happening to showing up on OTA TV or cable TV to showing up on satellite TV can already be tens of seconds.
- JCharante 2y ago
  isn't this why people would listen via radio?
kortilla 2y ago
I have bad news for you. This is how it works already for “live” sports
- YZF 2y ago
  Yep. Having actually worked on this sort of stuff I can confirm. Your ISP doesn't have enough bandwidth to the Internet (generally speaking) for all users to get their feed directly from a central location. And that central location doesn't have enough bandwidth to serve all users even if the ISP could. That said, the delay can be pretty small, e.g. the first user to hit the cache goes upstream, the others basically get the stream as it comes in to the cache. This doesn't make things worse, it makes them better.
- jrpelkonen 2y ago
  Correct. Here are some latency numbers from the last SuperBowl: https://www.phenixrts.com/resource/super-bowl-2024 https://www.phenixrts.com/resource/super-bowl-2024 Even the best latency is dozens of seconds behind live action.
squeaky-clean 2y ago
I don't bet so I have no clue, but why is that? Are people able to place bets in the middle of the match or something? I would have assumed bets get locked in when the fight starts
- School-Cotton 2y ago
  Idk about traditional sports books but on Polymarket you can certainly continue betting at any time until the market resolves.
  - pests 2y ago
    They end betting some minutes before the fight ends. I last saw Tyson at +500 while Jake was around -800 on DraftKings somewhere in the 6th round.
- JCharante 2y ago
  a match has multiple rounds doesn't it? Seems logical to bet on individual rounds or events that can occur throughout the match.

Live sports require microwave relays for high frequency sports bets

rk06 2y ago

Why should they catering to such an audience in first place? I think this could be one of upsells that Netflix could use. Premium: get no delay Normal users: get cache and delay

ctvo 2y ago
Or, hear me out here, it's a wild concept, just work. You know, like every other broadcaster, streaming platform, and company that does live content has been able to do. Acting like this is a novel, hard problem that needs to be solved and we need to "upsell" it in tiers because Netflix is incompetent and live broadcasting hasn't been around for 80+ years is so fucking stupid.
- kortilla 2y ago
  Every other live platform has a delay of multiple seconds

Brybry 2y ago

This is kind of silly because the delay between actual event happening to showing up on OTA TV or cable TV to showing up on satellite TV can already be tens of seconds.

JCharante 2y ago
isn't this why people would listen via radio?

kortilla 2y ago

I have bad news for you. This is how it works already for “live” sports

YZF 2y ago
Yep. Having actually worked on this sort of stuff I can confirm. Your ISP doesn't have enough bandwidth to the Internet (generally speaking) for all users to get their feed directly from a central location. And that central location doesn't have enough bandwidth to serve all users even if the ISP could. That said, the delay can be pretty small, e.g. the first user to hit the cache goes upstream, the others basically get the stream as it comes in to the cache. This doesn't make things worse, it makes them better.
jrpelkonen 2y ago
Correct. Here are some latency numbers from the last SuperBowl: https://www.phenixrts.com/resource/super-bowl-2024 https://www.phenixrts.com/resource/super-bowl-2024 Even the best latency is dozens of seconds behind live action.

squeaky-clean 2y ago

I don't bet so I have no clue, but why is that? Are people able to place bets in the middle of the match or something? I would have assumed bets get locked in when the fight starts

School-Cotton 2y ago
Idk about traditional sports books but on Polymarket you can certainly continue betting at any time until the market resolves.
- pests 2y ago
  They end betting some minutes before the fight ends. I last saw Tyson at +500 while Jake was around -800 on DraftKings somewhere in the 6th round.
JCharante 2y ago
a match has multiple rounds doesn't it? Seems logical to bet on individual rounds or events that can occur throughout the match.