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For a while their stated reason was that they felt they couldn’t live up to the hype and the gaming community was too toxic and would have crucified them for it

For a while their stated reason was that they felt they couldn’t live up to the hype and the gaming community was too toxic and would have crucified them for it. True or not, I can see why they’d think that. However it’s also worth noting that they were spending that time on other projects making them likely even more money. HL3 isn’t going to have live service or esports applications that make money like their other games do. It probably won’t be a big earner compared to those other games. Valve are also a privately held company and the rumour is the top people there are crazy rich, and even those further down the ladder earn a lot more than they would elsewhere. They don’t need HL3.

ric2b 2y ago
It might not make as much money as live service but it might work like halo cars for the auto industry, giving them lots of press and attention and higher status as a game developer.
- karim79 2y ago
  I think there is so much potential for a HL3. For example, messing with more recent discoveries such as the Higgs Boson to try to explain why stuff from another universe managed to be compatible with our universe, and have compatible DNA. That in itself would make for an intriguing plot.
asynchronous 2y ago
No rumor needed, they’re a 500 employee company with billions in estimated profits.
kllrnohj 2y ago
I believe they also said they don't want to do more of the same, they only want to work on something new. Hence why the only new Half-Life anything in 20 years is Alyx - it did something genuinely new. We all want HL3, but other than the story it would probably be fairly stagnant in terms of gameplay - nothing new has really happened in the genre.
- riffruff24 2y ago
  I wished they hire the Arkane team that got laid off. Put them to work on a new single player ip and let Victor Antonov add some of his design into it. They dont have to do anything new, just make it good enough, like Titanfall 2.
  - paulryanrogers 2y ago
    See the No clip documentary about how they did hire Arkane then backed out: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xMygnmB9Zw8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xMygnmB9Zw8
  - danpalmer 2y ago
    But that would go against > I believe they also said they don't want to do more of the same I've heard this too, with Half Life they want each game to be groundbreaking. Arkane have done great games, but they're not all groundbreaking, and arguably none of them are to the level that HL1/2 were.
    - riffruff24 2y ago
      That's why they should hire someone else to do the leg work (That's what they used to do anyway). There isn't exactly a lot of unique things in Portal 2 compared to the original but the sheer polish and testing Valve applied to their games (when they want to) is still unmatched.
      - kllrnohj 2y ago
        Portal 2 added co-op as the big gameplay change vs. 1. But Gabe has said Half-Life specifically is what they consider their ground breaking series now. So there won't be a 3 until they can push a boundary again like the first 2 did.
        danpalmer 2y ago
        From all the leaks, it sounds like the big change for HL3 is currently advanced materials – destruction, traction, behaviour, conductivity, etc. This would make sense as it plays into the material work in Portal 2 and the deformation work in HL2:EP2-3, as well as the physics puzzles in HL3. Additionally it sounds like gravity may be a core feature of the game. This is all speculation based on code leaks, and it's possible this is all true and they still don't release anything because the project stalls. Supposedly the game has moved into the later stages of development, but I'm not fully convinced by that part of the leaks.
sorenjan 2y ago
Gabe owns yachts worth a billion dollars. I'm sure the others are doing just fine as well. https://luxurylaunches.com/transport/gabe-newell-luxury-yachts.php https://luxurylaunches.com/transport/gabe-newell-luxury-yach...
- epolanski 2y ago
  Holy hell, he spends hundreds of millions per year just maintaining that fleet.
- paulryanrogers 2y ago
  Damn. I do not understand owning more than one yacht. It's like private planes. Why more than one?
  - karim79 2y ago
    One needs more than one yacht. Once you've hosted a massive orgy, you need a clean and sanitary retreat to escape to while the first one is worked on by your cleanup crew.
  - danpalmer 2y ago
    I would assume because moving yachts requires a lot of planning, so he'd likely have one in each location he wants to stay. Not excusing this behaviour, but there is a reason for it.
    - archon810 2y ago
      My guess is he's treating them as collectibles. If he can afford another, different yacht from the ones he already owns, he buys it. It's a passion.
- pxoe 2y ago
  Well, that makes a lot of sense. Why make games when one could just have yachts? Wonder when will the gaming community stop coddling and adoring that company.
paulryanrogers 2y ago
According to leaks they tried several times and gave up. Which is strange, it's not like episodes 2 and 3 were revolutionary. They're just more of the same. Alyx too wasn't particularly deep, it's only innovation was showing that narrative action games can work in VR.
- tracerbulletx 2y ago
  Alyx is so far beyond any other VR game. It is a masterful accomplishment and a masterpiece in its own right.
  - account42 2y ago
    That says more about the VR game industry than Alyx. HL1 and HL2 each changed the industry. Alyx is mostly forgotten.
account42 2y ago
> For a while their stated reason was that they felt they couldn’t live up to the hype and the gaming community was too toxic and would have crucified them for it. [citation needed] Valve has been mostly silent on the issue (after hyping up EP 3 themselves).

ric2b 2y ago

It might not make as much money as live service but it might work like halo cars for the auto industry, giving them lots of press and attention and higher status as a game developer.

karim79 2y ago
I think there is so much potential for a HL3. For example, messing with more recent discoveries such as the Higgs Boson to try to explain why stuff from another universe managed to be compatible with our universe, and have compatible DNA. That in itself would make for an intriguing plot.

asynchronous 2y ago

No rumor needed, they’re a 500 employee company with billions in estimated profits.

kllrnohj 2y ago

I believe they also said they don't want to do more of the same, they only want to work on something new. Hence why the only new Half-Life anything in 20 years is Alyx - it did something genuinely new. We all want HL3, but other than the story it would probably be fairly stagnant in terms of gameplay - nothing new has really happened in the genre.

riffruff24 2y ago
I wished they hire the Arkane team that got laid off. Put them to work on a new single player ip and let Victor Antonov add some of his design into it. They dont have to do anything new, just make it good enough, like Titanfall 2.
- paulryanrogers 2y ago
  See the No clip documentary about how they did hire Arkane then backed out: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xMygnmB9Zw8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xMygnmB9Zw8
- danpalmer 2y ago
  But that would go against > I believe they also said they don't want to do more of the same I've heard this too, with Half Life they want each game to be groundbreaking. Arkane have done great games, but they're not all groundbreaking, and arguably none of them are to the level that HL1/2 were.
  - riffruff24 2y ago
    That's why they should hire someone else to do the leg work (That's what they used to do anyway). There isn't exactly a lot of unique things in Portal 2 compared to the original but the sheer polish and testing Valve applied to their games (when they want to) is still unmatched.
    - kllrnohj 2y ago
      Portal 2 added co-op as the big gameplay change vs. 1. But Gabe has said Half-Life specifically is what they consider their ground breaking series now. So there won't be a 3 until they can push a boundary again like the first 2 did.
      - danpalmer 2y ago
        From all the leaks, it sounds like the big change for HL3 is currently advanced materials – destruction, traction, behaviour, conductivity, etc. This would make sense as it plays into the material work in Portal 2 and the deformation work in HL2:EP2-3, as well as the physics puzzles in HL3. Additionally it sounds like gravity may be a core feature of the game. This is all speculation based on code leaks, and it's possible this is all true and they still don't release anything because the project stalls. Supposedly the game has moved into the later stages of development, but I'm not fully convinced by that part of the leaks.

sorenjan 2y ago

Gabe owns yachts worth a billion dollars. I'm sure the others are doing just fine as well. https://luxurylaunches.com/transport/gabe-newell-luxury-yachts.php https://luxurylaunches.com/transport/gabe-newell-luxury-yach...

epolanski 2y ago
Holy hell, he spends hundreds of millions per year just maintaining that fleet.
paulryanrogers 2y ago
Damn. I do not understand owning more than one yacht. It's like private planes. Why more than one?
- karim79 2y ago
  One needs more than one yacht. Once you've hosted a massive orgy, you need a clean and sanitary retreat to escape to while the first one is worked on by your cleanup crew.
- danpalmer 2y ago
  I would assume because moving yachts requires a lot of planning, so he'd likely have one in each location he wants to stay. Not excusing this behaviour, but there is a reason for it.
  - archon810 2y ago
    My guess is he's treating them as collectibles. If he can afford another, different yacht from the ones he already owns, he buys it. It's a passion.
pxoe 2y ago
Well, that makes a lot of sense. Why make games when one could just have yachts? Wonder when will the gaming community stop coddling and adoring that company.

paulryanrogers 2y ago

According to leaks they tried several times and gave up. Which is strange, it's not like episodes 2 and 3 were revolutionary. They're just more of the same. Alyx too wasn't particularly deep, it's only innovation was showing that narrative action games can work in VR.

tracerbulletx 2y ago
Alyx is so far beyond any other VR game. It is a masterful accomplishment and a masterpiece in its own right.
- account42 2y ago
  That says more about the VR game industry than Alyx. HL1 and HL2 each changed the industry. Alyx is mostly forgotten.

account42 2y ago

> For a while their stated reason was that they felt they couldn’t live up to the hype and the gaming community was too toxic and would have crucified them for it. [citation needed] Valve has been mostly silent on the issue (after hyping up EP 3 themselves).