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> What does not work: Keyboard, mouse, TB & USB-C ports, thermal/freq mgt. So, eh, yeah. Basically useless as a laptop. Is the "Conclusion: Highly recommended

by arp242 2y ago

> What does not work: Keyboard, mouse, TB & USB-C ports, thermal/freq mgt. So, eh, yeah. Basically useless as a laptop. Is the "Conclusion: Highly recommended" at the end sarcasm?

rvnx 2y ago
Even with the correct drivers, the touchpad/trackpad is not functioning properly on Windows. The Lenovo's "touch" input feels like you are using a HTC Dream. Great for nostalgia, but would prefer the multi-touch of an iPhone.
lawik 2y ago
No, I think it is the optimism of someone who writes drivers when they need them. Bit of a fixer-upper.
mst 2y ago
A lot of people use a laptop with an external keyboard and mouse because they're sufficiently picky about their keyboard and mouse to be happy to deal with the additional hassle. I use the top half of a Helix 2 with a Thinkpad Tablet 2 Bluetooth Keyboard because I'm one of the three people in the world who actively likes the optical trackpoint. If you almost always use the machine on a desk rather than literally on your lap (for which I use the same keyboard paired with an 8" tablet) it's not even -much- additional hassle. So maybe it wouldn't work for you, but "basically useless" is silly.
- arp242 2y ago
  I said "Basically useless as a laptop", not "useless".
  - mst 2y ago
    I think generally people who carry an external keyboard and mouse around along with their laptop still think they're using it 'as a laptop.' Most laptops IME mostly get used on a desk whether with additional paraphernalia or not; 'laptop' gets used to describe the class of machine more than whether it's touching your legs or not. If you meant literal in-lap use it probably would've been better to specify it, and if you didn't mean 'useless' entirely it would probably have been worth clarifying that since your questioning whether the recommendation was sarcasm rather suggested you -did- mean useless entirely. Language is a pain, sadly, but I don't think lojban is going to win any time soon.

by arp242 2y ago

> What does not work: Keyboard, mouse, TB & USB-C ports, thermal/freq mgt. So, eh, yeah. Basically useless as a laptop. Is the "Conclusion: Highly recommended" at the end sarcasm?

rvnx 2y ago

Even with the correct drivers, the touchpad/trackpad is not functioning properly on Windows. The Lenovo's "touch" input feels like you are using a HTC Dream. Great for nostalgia, but would prefer the multi-touch of an iPhone.

lawik 2y ago

No, I think it is the optimism of someone who writes drivers when they need them. Bit of a fixer-upper.

mst 2y ago

A lot of people use a laptop with an external keyboard and mouse because they're sufficiently picky about their keyboard and mouse to be happy to deal with the additional hassle. I use the top half of a Helix 2 with a Thinkpad Tablet 2 Bluetooth Keyboard because I'm one of the three people in the world who actively likes the optical trackpoint. If you almost always use the machine on a desk rather than literally on your lap (for which I use the same keyboard paired with an 8" tablet) it's not even -much- additional hassle. So maybe it wouldn't work for you, but "basically useless" is silly.

arp242 2y ago
I said "Basically useless as a laptop", not "useless".
- mst 2y ago
  I think generally people who carry an external keyboard and mouse around along with their laptop still think they're using it 'as a laptop.' Most laptops IME mostly get used on a desk whether with additional paraphernalia or not; 'laptop' gets used to describe the class of machine more than whether it's touching your legs or not. If you meant literal in-lap use it probably would've been better to specify it, and if you didn't mean 'useless' entirely it would probably have been worth clarifying that since your questioning whether the recommendation was sarcasm rather suggested you -did- mean useless entirely. Language is a pain, sadly, but I don't think lojban is going to win any time soon.