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> How would you feel about, multiple times a day, being required to defend your core beliefs that you find trivially true? Do you have to defend, or can you ju

by timmg 2y ago

> How would you feel about, multiple times a day, being required to defend your core beliefs that you find trivially true? Do you have to defend, or can you just ignore. I assume those statements are still being made, even if you don’t read them. So why not just ignore and move on? FWIW, Twitter (not saying Twitter is the best or only site) allows you to have a feed of only people you follow. That probably approximates going to another site of only people who share your core beliefs.

bscphil 2y ago
My guess is that as a queer person, scarecrowbob gets regularly exposed to opinions that rise far beyond a mere difference of belief, and looks more like perpetual small doses of unmoderateable hatred. People who are willing to say that queer people are "literally demonic", for example, are not really offering some kind of thoughtful argument that queer people need to be engaging. But this toxicity is often expressed in ways that platforms are unable, or unwilling, to stop.
- Funes- 2y ago
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  - Chihuan 2y ago
    It was an echo chamber, the Tumblr Exodus made society much more leftwing overall when they moved into Reddit and Twitter, despite still using 4chan memes to this day.
  - sergiotapia 2y ago
    you are absolutely correct. this is why blueski and mastodon will ultimately fail.
Eisenstein 2y ago
People aren't built to ignore attacks on them and if they make themselves do it constantly it really has an effect on their self-esteem. See: bullying.
hocuspocus 2y ago
When the effort to ignore/mute/block hateful content outweighs the rest of the user experience... guess what happens? It doesn't matter if you interact only with people you follow, given that anyone with a bit of an audience gets plenty of hateful replies.
JoshTriplett 2y ago
> Do you have to defend, or can you just ignore. There's a concept of "background radiation" expressed in social spaces. Dealing with a constant barrage of people who hate you or your existence[1] is tiring. [1] Or perhaps they claim they don't hate you in particular, just, you know, anyone like you who they don't know in particular.
timeon 2y ago
> only people you follow No ads?
rsynnott 2y ago
Twitter has systematically broken the tools for ignoring it. No more mass blocklists, no more third party clients, an algorithm designed around shoving the content of the sort of idiots who pay for self-promotion in your face… I mean, no thanks.
LucasOe 2y ago
That's the reason why people are moving to Bluesky: because there you don't have a make a constant effort to ignore posts. On Twitter, I have a make an active effort to not click on the "For you" tab because I'll be bombarded with posts about Trump or "woke" games, which I simply don't want to see. On Bluesky, I can actually discover new content without having to think about my mental health when using the "Discover" feed.

by timmg 2y ago

bscphil 2y ago

My guess is that as a queer person, scarecrowbob gets regularly exposed to opinions that rise far beyond a mere difference of belief, and looks more like perpetual small doses of unmoderateable hatred. People who are willing to say that queer people are "literally demonic", for example, are not really offering some kind of thoughtful argument that queer people need to be engaging. But this toxicity is often expressed in ways that platforms are unable, or unwilling, to stop.

Funes- 2y ago
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- Chihuan 2y ago
  It was an echo chamber, the Tumblr Exodus made society much more leftwing overall when they moved into Reddit and Twitter, despite still using 4chan memes to this day.
- sergiotapia 2y ago
  you are absolutely correct. this is why blueski and mastodon will ultimately fail.

Eisenstein 2y ago

People aren't built to ignore attacks on them and if they make themselves do it constantly it really has an effect on their self-esteem. See: bullying.

hocuspocus 2y ago

When the effort to ignore/mute/block hateful content outweighs the rest of the user experience... guess what happens? It doesn't matter if you interact only with people you follow, given that anyone with a bit of an audience gets plenty of hateful replies.

JoshTriplett 2y ago

> Do you have to defend, or can you just ignore. There's a concept of "background radiation" expressed in social spaces. Dealing with a constant barrage of people who hate you or your existence[1] is tiring. [1] Or perhaps they claim they don't hate you in particular, just, you know, anyone like you who they don't know in particular.

timeon 2y ago

> only people you follow No ads?

rsynnott 2y ago

Twitter has systematically broken the tools for ignoring it. No more mass blocklists, no more third party clients, an algorithm designed around shoving the content of the sort of idiots who pay for self-promotion in your face… I mean, no thanks.

LucasOe 2y ago

That's the reason why people are moving to Bluesky: because there you don't have a make a constant effort to ignore posts. On Twitter, I have a make an active effort to not click on the "For you" tab because I'll be bombarded with posts about Trump or "woke" games, which I simply don't want to see. On Bluesky, I can actually discover new content without having to think about my mental health when using the "Discover" feed.