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What information gain is there in most of the "interactivity" that is afforded by social media?

multjoy 2y ago
People seem to like it?
frio 2y ago
For things like a missing person alert, it provides an instant feedback mechanism and the ability to share things with people you might know in the affected area. Otherwise, there’s absolutely utility to interacting over social media. We’re doing it right now!
flir 2y ago
Why is information gain the correct metric? We're talking about marketing here. Shouldn't it be conversions or awareness or something?
ianburrell 2y ago
One important one is reposting that shows post to your followers who might not see the original. It is important way to see other content. Also, liking it signal that other people were interested in the post. I don't global likes are useful for likes from people you follow are important. Finally, replies mean can see interaction from people you follow. If you follow interesting people, you see interesting discussion. With social media, it isn't possible to read everything, I know I used to try to read my whole Twitter feed. There needs to be some way to filter than just time when you looked. I think the current algorithmic feed is bad because it tries to show other stuff instead of ordering things that want to see.
- palata 2y ago
  But all those features allow for optimization and create competition. If you want likes, or views, or reposts, then you will have to "engineer" your post in such a way that it gets more attention. Not sure if that's always beneficial.
  - ianburrell 2y ago
    There is not much point in attention when post is only seen by followers and reposts. It is indication that wrote a good post. The only currency is followers. It was hard to get those without outside fame. The problem is with Twitter and others is that they now have algorithmic feed. That means posts get seen globally and clout metrics are valuable for reach. Comments also get clout so get lots of drive-by ones and less discussion.
Uehreka 2y ago
Credentialing. I frequently find myself reading Tweets from people I’ve never heard of because someone who I know to be an expert in a particular topic has liked or retweeted them. This kind of signaling helps surface more obscure content and make it available to people who wouldn’t have found it on their own. This is a huge deal.
- palata 2y ago
  There used to be RSS readers that allowed you to create and share feeds with your friends, actually.
  - jtbayly 2y ago
    Now we just need a site where we can browse a bunch of people’s feeds and find interesting ones. Sounds like Twitter.
    - palata 2y ago
      Except that RSS is an open standard.
ks2048 2y ago
"social" means people interacting - replies, likes, etc. If someone has an RSS reader with feeds from some news sources, official channels issuing announcements, etc - that's great, but does anyone consider that "social media"? (Of course, you can believe that social media is bad and you don't want it, but that's a different question)
cuteboy19 2y ago
filter out unimportant stuff

People seem to like it?

frio 2y ago

For things like a missing person alert, it provides an instant feedback mechanism and the ability to share things with people you might know in the affected area. Otherwise, there’s absolutely utility to interacting over social media. We’re doing it right now!

flir 2y ago

Why is information gain the correct metric? We're talking about marketing here. Shouldn't it be conversions or awareness or something?

ianburrell 2y ago

One important one is reposting that shows post to your followers who might not see the original. It is important way to see other content. Also, liking it signal that other people were interested in the post. I don't global likes are useful for likes from people you follow are important. Finally, replies mean can see interaction from people you follow. If you follow interesting people, you see interesting discussion. With social media, it isn't possible to read everything, I know I used to try to read my whole Twitter feed. There needs to be some way to filter than just time when you looked. I think the current algorithmic feed is bad because it tries to show other stuff instead of ordering things that want to see.

palata 2y ago
But all those features allow for optimization and create competition. If you want likes, or views, or reposts, then you will have to "engineer" your post in such a way that it gets more attention. Not sure if that's always beneficial.
- ianburrell 2y ago
  There is not much point in attention when post is only seen by followers and reposts. It is indication that wrote a good post. The only currency is followers. It was hard to get those without outside fame. The problem is with Twitter and others is that they now have algorithmic feed. That means posts get seen globally and clout metrics are valuable for reach. Comments also get clout so get lots of drive-by ones and less discussion.

Uehreka 2y ago

Credentialing. I frequently find myself reading Tweets from people I’ve never heard of because someone who I know to be an expert in a particular topic has liked or retweeted them. This kind of signaling helps surface more obscure content and make it available to people who wouldn’t have found it on their own. This is a huge deal.

palata 2y ago
There used to be RSS readers that allowed you to create and share feeds with your friends, actually.
- jtbayly 2y ago
  Now we just need a site where we can browse a bunch of people’s feeds and find interesting ones. Sounds like Twitter.
  - palata 2y ago
    Except that RSS is an open standard.

ks2048 2y ago

"social" means people interacting - replies, likes, etc. If someone has an RSS reader with feeds from some news sources, official channels issuing announcements, etc - that's great, but does anyone consider that "social media"? (Of course, you can believe that social media is bad and you don't want it, but that's a different question)

cuteboy19 2y ago

filter out unimportant stuff