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>My first impression is that like with HTMX, it's for a style of web apps that has few uses nowadays. What do you mean? I see nothing common with HTMX. It feel

by kgeist 2y ago

>My first impression is that like with HTMX, it's for a style of web apps that has few uses nowadays. What do you mean? I see nothing common with HTMX. It feels more like old PHP5 projects, where they mixed business logic with controllers, database access and template rendering all in one big soup.

duskwuff 2y ago
Even PHP had a composable expression syntax (e.g. nested arithmetic/string/array expressions, function calls, etc). I don't think this does; every statement seems to be a unique, standalone thing.
- think970 2y ago
  That may be a good thing. I think it's more natural to have it that way. I always wondered why a keyword in a programming language must have this rigid meaning. In English, that's not the case, there's a context. Gliimly seems much simpler than PHP or other "classic" programming languages out there (C++, Java, Go, whatever). I think there's something to the idea of expressing programming closer to English, in a declarative way. I'll give it a try, I'd love to type (much) less and just sort of "talk" programming, because that's what this looks like.
  - dvdkon 2y ago
    I don't see how foregoing composable expressions makes the language any more like English or more natural. Gliimly is like Assembly (generally seen as very "unnatural"), if it had fewer cryptic mnemonics and more SQL-like complex commands.
    - yaani75 2y ago
      I'd say expressionless is the way of the future, and this new language is right on the money here. After all, what do you think AI is all about? It's about replacing tedious expressions with pre-built programmable components. Granted, it's more like a helper at this point, and maybe not a very good one, but that's where we're going. So a Gliimly idea of an expressionless programming language where you can use "programmable" pre-built components in a way that lets you write web applications, that's very attractive. I would say Gliimly would be great as a solid base for an AI-programming chatbot.

by kgeist 2y ago

duskwuff 2y ago

Even PHP had a composable expression syntax (e.g. nested arithmetic/string/array expressions, function calls, etc). I don't think this does; every statement seems to be a unique, standalone thing.

think970 2y ago
That may be a good thing. I think it's more natural to have it that way. I always wondered why a keyword in a programming language must have this rigid meaning. In English, that's not the case, there's a context. Gliimly seems much simpler than PHP or other "classic" programming languages out there (C++, Java, Go, whatever). I think there's something to the idea of expressing programming closer to English, in a declarative way. I'll give it a try, I'd love to type (much) less and just sort of "talk" programming, because that's what this looks like.
- dvdkon 2y ago
  I don't see how foregoing composable expressions makes the language any more like English or more natural. Gliimly is like Assembly (generally seen as very "unnatural"), if it had fewer cryptic mnemonics and more SQL-like complex commands.
  - yaani75 2y ago
    I'd say expressionless is the way of the future, and this new language is right on the money here. After all, what do you think AI is all about? It's about replacing tedious expressions with pre-built programmable components. Granted, it's more like a helper at this point, and maybe not a very good one, but that's where we're going. So a Gliimly idea of an expressionless programming language where you can use "programmable" pre-built components in a way that lets you write web applications, that's very attractive. I would say Gliimly would be great as a solid base for an AI-programming chatbot.