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It is functionally impossible to run an unmoderated message board that doesn't devolve. Holding out hope that "we" learn where "we" is everyone in the world is

by tootie 2y ago

It is functionally impossible to run an unmoderated message board that doesn't devolve. Holding out hope that "we" learn where "we" is everyone in the world is not going to happen in 1000 years. The only way for a forum to remain civil and useful is for careful moderation to remove troublemakers and it is equally impossible to do that without ever making a mistake.

ta8645 2y ago
You're presenting a false dichotomy. Of course, there will be mistakes. And of course there needs to be moderation. But I support the moderation similar to HN, it's about politeness and respect. As long as you're respectful, you can say your piece. Also, X does provide community based fact checking too, which works best when there are representatives from all sides participating.
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - ta8645 2y ago
    Well, i'm in favor of pursuing the ideal, even though it will never be perfect in practice.
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    You are more than free to talk with Dang about any given flag you disagree with. He puts up with it much too kindly. That alone is a grace reddit never gave me. Downvoting is a user action. There's no real gain to blame the entire community for their individual action against a single comment. Feel free to inquire if you really need to, but half the downvotes I see are pretty explicitly breaking the guidelines.
- verdverm 2y ago
  Having participated in the notes system, it largely became another ideological battleground and was too slow to add the, by and large, accurate notes in the end. The majority of views and reactions had already happened One of the appealing aspects of Bluesky / ATProto is that there can be multiple fact checkers that users can subscribe to, which can have differing governance models, policies, and operations. Within the app, you can decide which ones (more than one even) at an individual level. This means we can have competition, but also echo chambers. It will be interesting to see how it works out
- tootie 2y ago
  What about disinformation?
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
Might be a job for an LLM personal moderator? Give it a prompt, what kind of content you want to see, and what to filter out?

by tootie 2y ago

ta8645 2y ago

You're presenting a false dichotomy. Of course, there will be mistakes. And of course there needs to be moderation. But I support the moderation similar to HN, it's about politeness and respect. As long as you're respectful, you can say your piece. Also, X does provide community based fact checking too, which works best when there are representatives from all sides participating.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
[flagged]
- ta8645 2y ago
  Well, i'm in favor of pursuing the ideal, even though it will never be perfect in practice.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  You are more than free to talk with Dang about any given flag you disagree with. He puts up with it much too kindly. That alone is a grace reddit never gave me. Downvoting is a user action. There's no real gain to blame the entire community for their individual action against a single comment. Feel free to inquire if you really need to, but half the downvotes I see are pretty explicitly breaking the guidelines.
verdverm 2y ago
Having participated in the notes system, it largely became another ideological battleground and was too slow to add the, by and large, accurate notes in the end. The majority of views and reactions had already happened One of the appealing aspects of Bluesky / ATProto is that there can be multiple fact checkers that users can subscribe to, which can have differing governance models, policies, and operations. Within the app, you can decide which ones (more than one even) at an individual level. This means we can have competition, but also echo chambers. It will be interesting to see how it works out
tootie 2y ago
What about disinformation?

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago

Might be a job for an LLM personal moderator? Give it a prompt, what kind of content you want to see, and what to filter out?