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I still think Nostr will eventually be the go-to.

by Geep5 2y ago

ibz 2y ago
That's how it looks like currently. Nostr is the open protocol whereas Bluesky is the more open platform.
- verdverm 2y ago
  Bluesky is building ATProto (https://atproto.com https://atproto.com) which is an open protocol that you can build many types of social apps on top of
jazzyjackson 2y ago
isn't it exclusively inhabited by bitcoiners? and relies on never leaking your private key, with no recourse for key rotation? or am I out of date
- Heliodex 2y ago
  We had NIP-26 Delegated Event Signing, so you could set up multiple private keys with short expiration times delegated from a root key, then if one of the delegated keys was leaked you could just wait for it to expire. This ended up being considered a bad idea as clients that supported it would have to display any notes as if they were sent from the root key, and clients that didn't support it wouldn't be able to keep track of anyone using delegation.
  - jazzyjackson 2y ago
    I was really impressed with a presentation I attended at the internet identity workshop detailing KERI, Key Event Receipt Infrastructure. I wish someone would integrate it into a social network so I don't have to do it myself. Landing page: https://keri.one/ https://keri.one/ Whitepaper: https://github.com/SmithSamuelM/Papers/blob/master/whitepapers/KERI_WP_2.x.web.pdf https://github.com/SmithSamuelM/Papers/blob/master/whitepape...
  - est 2y ago
    nostr was cool and simple concept until you met tens of thousands of NIPs.
mandibles 2y ago
Protocols > platforms. Nostr will win long-term because it is a protocol.
- cassepipe 2y ago
  XMPP would like to have a word
- MisterBastahrd 2y ago
  Yes, that's why people go to Usenet for their discussions and not Reddit.
- astrange 2y ago
  This isn't tenable because you need to do moderation and spam filtering, which require centralization.
  - mandibles 2y ago
    Who is "you"?
    - astrange 2y ago
      For platforms I mean the owner of the platform, and for protocols I mean the theoretical person who the users would be wishing owned it so they could do spam filtering.
- verdverm 2y ago
  Bluesky has ATProto (https://atproto.com https://atproto.com), so both have open protocols

I still think Nostr will eventually be the go-to.

by Geep5 2y ago

I still think Nostr will eventually be the go-to.

ibz 2y ago

That's how it looks like currently. Nostr is the open protocol whereas Bluesky is the more open platform.

verdverm 2y ago
Bluesky is building ATProto (https://atproto.com https://atproto.com) which is an open protocol that you can build many types of social apps on top of

jazzyjackson 2y ago

isn't it exclusively inhabited by bitcoiners? and relies on never leaking your private key, with no recourse for key rotation? or am I out of date

Heliodex 2y ago
We had NIP-26 Delegated Event Signing, so you could set up multiple private keys with short expiration times delegated from a root key, then if one of the delegated keys was leaked you could just wait for it to expire. This ended up being considered a bad idea as clients that supported it would have to display any notes as if they were sent from the root key, and clients that didn't support it wouldn't be able to keep track of anyone using delegation.
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  I was really impressed with a presentation I attended at the internet identity workshop detailing KERI, Key Event Receipt Infrastructure. I wish someone would integrate it into a social network so I don't have to do it myself. Landing page: https://keri.one/ https://keri.one/ Whitepaper: https://github.com/SmithSamuelM/Papers/blob/master/whitepapers/KERI_WP_2.x.web.pdf https://github.com/SmithSamuelM/Papers/blob/master/whitepape...
- est 2y ago
  nostr was cool and simple concept until you met tens of thousands of NIPs.

mandibles 2y ago

Protocols > platforms. Nostr will win long-term because it is a protocol.

cassepipe 2y ago
XMPP would like to have a word
MisterBastahrd 2y ago
Yes, that's why people go to Usenet for their discussions and not Reddit.
astrange 2y ago
This isn't tenable because you need to do moderation and spam filtering, which require centralization.
- mandibles 2y ago
  Who is "you"?
  - astrange 2y ago
    For platforms I mean the owner of the platform, and for protocols I mean the theoretical person who the users would be wishing owned it so they could do spam filtering.
verdverm 2y ago
Bluesky has ATProto (https://atproto.com https://atproto.com), so both have open protocols