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Look up tankies[0] —- people who support these atrocities by imperialists and other problematic regimes because they’re so conditioned against the US / Western

Look up tankies[0] —- people who support these atrocities by imperialists and other problematic regimes because they’re so conditioned against the US / Western nations that they assume anyone acting against the west’s interests must be doing good. [0] https://youtu.be/0lcBplljoD8 https://youtu.be/0lcBplljoD8

atemerev 2y ago
I am aware of the phenomenon; the interesting part is the word “conditioned”. By whom? And, eventually, who paid for the conditioning? (I think it mostly ends with the usual suspects, Russia, China and Iran).
- wisemang 2y ago
  Possibly at least somewhat. I think it also comes from getting disillusioned by legitimately terrible things done by the US in the name of “democracy” e.g. Latin American death squads in the 70s/80s, Iraq war and war on terror, etc. People can’t seem to hold the idea of multiple countries being problematic and doing objectionable things. Certainly information ops from your usual suspects feed into this.
  - gwervc 2y ago
    Yes. It's really weird that posters here find it so hard to believe in people looking at their situation and making their own opinions without external influence. I don't need Russians or anyone else to see that my state is stealing half of my salary in exchange for insecurity (including terrorism and a friend gunned by it), failing healthcare, disfunctional administration, public media shitting on me daily on the basis of my sex, race and sexual orientation, supporting wars and war crimes abroad, canceling the ideas of 40% of the voters, etc.
- IncreasePosts 2y ago
  Conditioning doesn't need to be something one does to another. You can condition yourself by just dabbling in something and then going down the rabbit hole.
  - davedx 2y ago
    Like Elon being conditioned by his own social media website.
    - Forgeties79 2y ago
      I imagine a lot of that happened well before he got involved with Twitter. He was just better at hiding it and likely had a PR team covering for him
- red-iron-pine 2y ago
  North Korea also has large scale, effective info-operations, though aimed mostly at US/SK/Japan. also more ideological overlap with the "tanky" world view than anyone else
- golergka 2y ago
  Some people just have temperaments of fanatics, ready to become obsessed by any political idea and take it to the extreme. And if the idea happens to be a messianic religion which gives a great excuse to relish in hate and glorify violence, it's even better.
pjc50 2y ago
Those people are idiots on the Internet, but they have no actual political power. The pro-Russia right is more of a concern, especially when they make common cause out of "anti woke".
- sanderjd 2y ago
  Tulsi Gabbard may well be the next director of national intelligence...

atemerev 2y ago

I am aware of the phenomenon; the interesting part is the word “conditioned”. By whom? And, eventually, who paid for the conditioning? (I think it mostly ends with the usual suspects, Russia, China and Iran).

wisemang 2y ago
Possibly at least somewhat. I think it also comes from getting disillusioned by legitimately terrible things done by the US in the name of “democracy” e.g. Latin American death squads in the 70s/80s, Iraq war and war on terror, etc. People can’t seem to hold the idea of multiple countries being problematic and doing objectionable things. Certainly information ops from your usual suspects feed into this.
- gwervc 2y ago
  Yes. It's really weird that posters here find it so hard to believe in people looking at their situation and making their own opinions without external influence. I don't need Russians or anyone else to see that my state is stealing half of my salary in exchange for insecurity (including terrorism and a friend gunned by it), failing healthcare, disfunctional administration, public media shitting on me daily on the basis of my sex, race and sexual orientation, supporting wars and war crimes abroad, canceling the ideas of 40% of the voters, etc.
IncreasePosts 2y ago
Conditioning doesn't need to be something one does to another. You can condition yourself by just dabbling in something and then going down the rabbit hole.
- davedx 2y ago
  Like Elon being conditioned by his own social media website.
  - Forgeties79 2y ago
    I imagine a lot of that happened well before he got involved with Twitter. He was just better at hiding it and likely had a PR team covering for him
red-iron-pine 2y ago
North Korea also has large scale, effective info-operations, though aimed mostly at US/SK/Japan. also more ideological overlap with the "tanky" world view than anyone else
golergka 2y ago
Some people just have temperaments of fanatics, ready to become obsessed by any political idea and take it to the extreme. And if the idea happens to be a messianic religion which gives a great excuse to relish in hate and glorify violence, it's even better.

pjc50 2y ago

Those people are idiots on the Internet, but they have no actual political power. The pro-Russia right is more of a concern, especially when they make common cause out of "anti woke".

sanderjd 2y ago
Tulsi Gabbard may well be the next director of national intelligence...