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He bans journalists and others who criticise him. Why do you think he is committed to free speech, rather than speech he likes?

by lores 2y ago

rsynnott 2y ago
> The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
marcusverus 2y ago
He bans journalists?
cal85 2y ago
That's troubling to hear. Can you give an example of a journalist he has banned?
- cbHXBY1D 2y ago
  https://newrepublic.com/post/186423/elon-musk-x-suspends-journalist-klippenstein-leaked-jd-vance-documents https://newrepublic.com/post/186423/elon-musk-x-suspends-jou... https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-temporary-ban-journalist-accounts-raises-alarm-rcna133084 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-temporary-ban-jo...
elforce002 2y ago
Who did he ban?
- rsynnott 2y ago
  Most notably there was this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi... But it has been ongoing, eg https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-still-banning-journalists https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-st..., https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/15/elon-musk-led-twitter-suspended-plainsite-a-prominent-tesla-critic.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/15/elon-musk-led-twitter-suspen..., https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-musk-silencing-his-critics-as-journalists-are-suspended-by-x/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-mus...
  - pixxel 2y ago
    I checked your first link. “ On December 16, 2022, Musk stated that account access would only be restricted for seven days[2][3][5] and on December 17, 2022, some accounts were reportedly restored with Musk citing Twitter community polls as the reason for the reversal.” This was something to do with tracking Musk’s location and sharing it on Twitter, according to your link. I can’t be bothered to validate your secondary links.
    - k4rli 2y ago
      Posting publicly available flight ADSB information (you can even set up a tracker at home to track overhead flights) is not "tracking someone's location" or private info.
    - lobsterthief 2y ago
      > I can’t be bothered to validate your secondary links. That’s a shame. They’re more challenging for you to refute.
- lores 2y ago
  Some are here https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-account-list/ https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-accou... There was also Dell Cameron for reporting about a Twitter hack; Liam Nissan, TrueAnon, for poking fun at Musk; Ken Klippensten for sharing an embarrassing document about JD Vance before the election, Alan MacLeod & Steven Monacelli for who knows what. He frivolously sued orgs whose speech affects his bottom line in order to bankrupt them, like the Center for Countering Digital Hate, MediaMatters or Global Alliance for Responsible Media. There was him folding without a fight to censorship requests from India and Turkey. There's him banning the use of 'cis' and 'cisgender' on Twitter, and Pro-Palestinian phrase "from the river to the sea". Altogether, it paints a picture of someone whose stated commitment to free-speech is not backed by facts, and entirely self-serving.
shakiXBT 2y ago
So we're just making stuff up now
- lobsterthief 2y ago
  No. Check out all the links in the comment’s in this thread.

He bans journalists and others who criticise him. Why do you think he is committed to free speech, rather than speech he likes?

by lores 2y ago

He bans journalists and others who criticise him. Why do you think he is committed to free speech, rather than speech he likes?

rsynnott 2y ago

> The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

marcusverus 2y ago

He bans journalists?

cal85 2y ago

That's troubling to hear. Can you give an example of a journalist he has banned?

cbHXBY1D 2y ago
https://newrepublic.com/post/186423/elon-musk-x-suspends-journalist-klippenstein-leaked-jd-vance-documents https://newrepublic.com/post/186423/elon-musk-x-suspends-jou... https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-temporary-ban-journalist-accounts-raises-alarm-rcna133084 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-temporary-ban-jo...

elforce002 2y ago

Who did he ban?

rsynnott 2y ago
Most notably there was this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi... But it has been ongoing, eg https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-still-banning-journalists https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-st..., https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/15/elon-musk-led-twitter-suspended-plainsite-a-prominent-tesla-critic.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/15/elon-musk-led-twitter-suspen..., https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-musk-silencing-his-critics-as-journalists-are-suspended-by-x/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-mus...
- pixxel 2y ago
  I checked your first link. “ On December 16, 2022, Musk stated that account access would only be restricted for seven days[2][3][5] and on December 17, 2022, some accounts were reportedly restored with Musk citing Twitter community polls as the reason for the reversal.” This was something to do with tracking Musk’s location and sharing it on Twitter, according to your link. I can’t be bothered to validate your secondary links.
  - k4rli 2y ago
    Posting publicly available flight ADSB information (you can even set up a tracker at home to track overhead flights) is not "tracking someone's location" or private info.
  - lobsterthief 2y ago
    > I can’t be bothered to validate your secondary links. That’s a shame. They’re more challenging for you to refute.
lores 2y ago
Some are here https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-account-list/ https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-accou... There was also Dell Cameron for reporting about a Twitter hack; Liam Nissan, TrueAnon, for poking fun at Musk; Ken Klippensten for sharing an embarrassing document about JD Vance before the election, Alan MacLeod & Steven Monacelli for who knows what. He frivolously sued orgs whose speech affects his bottom line in order to bankrupt them, like the Center for Countering Digital Hate, MediaMatters or Global Alliance for Responsible Media. There was him folding without a fight to censorship requests from India and Turkey. There's him banning the use of 'cis' and 'cisgender' on Twitter, and Pro-Palestinian phrase "from the river to the sea". Altogether, it paints a picture of someone whose stated commitment to free-speech is not backed by facts, and entirely self-serving.

shakiXBT 2y ago

So we're just making stuff up now

lobsterthief 2y ago
No. Check out all the links in the comment’s in this thread.