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> But for now, for anyone periodically using the phone, which I bet is most users, the phone will never reboot automatically. Samsung has an auto-reboot daily

> But for now, for anyone periodically using the phone, which I bet is most users, the phone will never reboot automatically. Samsung has an auto-reboot daily feature and has been pushing it a lot (in form of annoying notifications and settings suggestions). In principle, it may not even be a bad idea - but for one fact: Rebooting the phone effectively turns it off. Until the user unlocks the phone, it won't connect to phone network. AFAIK it also won't start any of the usual background processes that listen to notifications, and it might not even connect to Wi-Fi. Those "security" measures make automated reboots an useless feature. There really is only one good time to auto-reboot, and that's when the user is sleeping. But no way anyone's doing that when it means their phone won't be able to receive calls. Even during the day, the phone randomly rebooting and remaining disconnected until the user notices - it's probably even worse, and I imagine anyone would disable this feature after first time it activated.

nyargh 2y ago
I'm not sure this is true. I have a Samsung with this feature. It rebooted overnight and this morning it was in BFU state with several mail and sms notifications. It was also connected to wifi and the cellular network.
- TeMPOraL 2y ago
  It was true for my Galaxy S22, and is currently true with reboots after update. And yes, early on I had a situation where the phone rebooted overnight and remained stuck on the lock screen while disconnected from networks, until I woke up and noticed. Fortunately I didn't miss anything important, but after that I immediately reviewed all settings and disabled anything that could reboot the device automatically (including updates, which are set for manual installation now).
gambiting 2y ago
>>Rebooting the phone effectively turns it off. Until the user unlocks the phone, it won't connect to phone network. AFAIK it also won't start any of the usual background processes that listen to notifications, Well yes, because the storage and all the apps are encrypted until you unlock your phone. So you could have all the apps boot up and start listening for events, but it would be at the cost of reduced security elsewhere. Not sure what the right solution is tbh, I think personally I'd rather have all of my data encrypted even if it means my phone isn't actually "active" after a reboot.
BrandoElFollito 2y ago
> Until the user unlocks the phone, it won't connect to phone network. This is not true in my case (Samsung Galaxy S22+). The phone is fully operational after a reboot, connected to GSM, 5G and Wi-Fi

nyargh 2y ago

I'm not sure this is true. I have a Samsung with this feature. It rebooted overnight and this morning it was in BFU state with several mail and sms notifications. It was also connected to wifi and the cellular network.

TeMPOraL 2y ago
It was true for my Galaxy S22, and is currently true with reboots after update. And yes, early on I had a situation where the phone rebooted overnight and remained stuck on the lock screen while disconnected from networks, until I woke up and noticed. Fortunately I didn't miss anything important, but after that I immediately reviewed all settings and disabled anything that could reboot the device automatically (including updates, which are set for manual installation now).

gambiting 2y ago

>>Rebooting the phone effectively turns it off. Until the user unlocks the phone, it won't connect to phone network. AFAIK it also won't start any of the usual background processes that listen to notifications, Well yes, because the storage and all the apps are encrypted until you unlock your phone. So you could have all the apps boot up and start listening for events, but it would be at the cost of reduced security elsewhere. Not sure what the right solution is tbh, I think personally I'd rather have all of my data encrypted even if it means my phone isn't actually "active" after a reboot.

BrandoElFollito 2y ago

> Until the user unlocks the phone, it won't connect to phone network. This is not true in my case (Samsung Galaxy S22+). The phone is fully operational after a reboot, connected to GSM, 5G and Wi-Fi