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Sigh. I guess China will be able to finance, redesign and manufacture these. Won’t be Europe, at least. Maybe in the 2030s? Now, if Europe could jump start its

Sigh. I guess China will be able to finance, redesign and manufacture these. Won’t be Europe, at least. Maybe in the 2030s? Now, if Europe could jump start its manufacturing by getting its defense contracting up to speed…

SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
> I guess China will be able to finance, redesign and manufacture these. "will" ? They're all already on it: https://www.livescience.com/technology/electric-vehicles/china-green-lights-mass-production-of-autonomous-flying-taxis-with-commercial-flights-set-for-2025 https://www.livescience.com/technology/electric-vehicles/chi... https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/17/xpeng-aims-for-flying-car-pre-orders-this-year-with-delivery-in-2026.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/17/xpeng-aims-for-flying-car-pr... https://cnevpost.com/2024/11/13/xpeng-aeroht-modular-flying-car-2008-pre-orders-airshow-china/ https://cnevpost.com/2024/11/13/xpeng-aeroht-modular-flying-... You might call this a ludicrous rich man's toy, and you'd be right. But the fact that cutting-edge ludicrous rich man's toys are now appearing first in China is itself a show of strength.
sofixa 2y ago
> Now, if Europe could jump start its manufacturing by getting its defense contracting up to speed… Jump start? Manufacturing in the EU has been pretty constant to slightly growing in recent years as % of GDP at around 15%. For comparison, the US is at 11.4%. https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/EUU/european-union/manufacturing-output https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/EUU/eur... https://www.nist.gov/el/applied-economics-office/manufacturing/manufacturing-economy/total-us-manufacturing https://www.nist.gov/el/applied-economics-office/manufacturi...
- SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
  grandparent post also assumes that Europe is not ramping up arms production and defence spending. I'd be happy to hear more about it from someone who knows the field, but AFAIK, it is happening, the assumption is incorrect. It's sad that this is necessary, but it very much is.

SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago

> I guess China will be able to finance, redesign and manufacture these. "will" ? They're all already on it: https://www.livescience.com/technology/electric-vehicles/china-green-lights-mass-production-of-autonomous-flying-taxis-with-commercial-flights-set-for-2025 https://www.livescience.com/technology/electric-vehicles/chi... https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/17/xpeng-aims-for-flying-car-pre-orders-this-year-with-delivery-in-2026.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/17/xpeng-aims-for-flying-car-pr... https://cnevpost.com/2024/11/13/xpeng-aeroht-modular-flying-car-2008-pre-orders-airshow-china/ https://cnevpost.com/2024/11/13/xpeng-aeroht-modular-flying-... You might call this a ludicrous rich man's toy, and you'd be right. But the fact that cutting-edge ludicrous rich man's toys are now appearing first in China is itself a show of strength.

sofixa 2y ago

> Now, if Europe could jump start its manufacturing by getting its defense contracting up to speed… Jump start? Manufacturing in the EU has been pretty constant to slightly growing in recent years as % of GDP at around 15%. For comparison, the US is at 11.4%. https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/EUU/european-union/manufacturing-output https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/EUU/eur... https://www.nist.gov/el/applied-economics-office/manufacturing/manufacturing-economy/total-us-manufacturing https://www.nist.gov/el/applied-economics-office/manufacturi...

SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
grandparent post also assumes that Europe is not ramping up arms production and defence spending. I'd be happy to hear more about it from someone who knows the field, but AFAIK, it is happening, the assumption is incorrect. It's sad that this is necessary, but it very much is.