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This feels like a wild take, and I haven’t seen anyone espouse the view that WFH people don’t mind upsetting others, other than you so far. I’ve seen people fer

This feels like a wild take, and I haven’t seen anyone espouse the view that WFH people don’t mind upsetting others, other than you so far. I’ve seen people fervently against mandated RTO, and I understand that. I see people saying they want WFH as an option - also valid. The option to have WFH does not mean they’re advocating for others to not be able to be in office or hybrid. I’ve worked from home for years now, maybe about 10? And I don’t care at all if anyone wants to work in an office - go for it! I get it, and it’s not for me.

paulcole 2y ago
> I haven’t seen anyone espouse the view that WFH people don’t mind upsetting others, other than you so far You may not have seen it, but you yourself do it just a few sentences later: > And I don’t care at all if anyone wants to work in an office - go for it! I get it, and it’s not for me. If you and I work together and my preference is to work in an office with other people in that office then you don't seem to mind upsetting me. And again, it is not bad to upset me. It is your right to upset me. Just the same as it is my right to upset you by requiring you to come into an office. Neither option is right and neither option is wrong. It's just that each one upsets a different person.
- phatskat 2y ago
  Maybe my energy came across a bit off, and I apologize. I’m all for you working in an office - and if that’s something you and I would need to figure out if we worked together, I’d be happy to find a middle ground. I don’t think anyone should be required to do one or the other, and I think a team needs to be able to find compromises to get to a healthy place for all involved. Ideally, managers and employers would work to team people up who aligned on those views, and that’s unrealistic to expect for more so than to hope for.
  - paulcole 2y ago
    > I don’t think anyone should be required to do one or the other Yes, you do not think that because you are OK upsetting me. I am OK with upsetting you by encouraging a full-company RTO policy. The compromise is that one of us deals with it or gets a new job.

paulcole 2y ago

> I haven’t seen anyone espouse the view that WFH people don’t mind upsetting others, other than you so far You may not have seen it, but you yourself do it just a few sentences later: > And I don’t care at all if anyone wants to work in an office - go for it! I get it, and it’s not for me. If you and I work together and my preference is to work in an office with other people in that office then you don't seem to mind upsetting me. And again, it is not bad to upset me. It is your right to upset me. Just the same as it is my right to upset you by requiring you to come into an office. Neither option is right and neither option is wrong. It's just that each one upsets a different person.

phatskat 2y ago
Maybe my energy came across a bit off, and I apologize. I’m all for you working in an office - and if that’s something you and I would need to figure out if we worked together, I’d be happy to find a middle ground. I don’t think anyone should be required to do one or the other, and I think a team needs to be able to find compromises to get to a healthy place for all involved. Ideally, managers and employers would work to team people up who aligned on those views, and that’s unrealistic to expect for more so than to hope for.
- paulcole 2y ago
  > I don’t think anyone should be required to do one or the other Yes, you do not think that because you are OK upsetting me. I am OK with upsetting you by encouraging a full-company RTO policy. The compromise is that one of us deals with it or gets a new job.