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If this were configurable, I would make it 30 minutes and increase it if I noticed any inconvenience. But I doubt that I would. I already have my phone in perma
by chatmasta 2y ago
If this were configurable, I would make it 30 minutes and increase it if I noticed any inconvenience. But I doubt that I would. I already have my phone in permanent do-not-disturb (so a reboot causing delayed notifications wouldn't be an issue), and it's not like I mind entering my passcode instead of FaceID every 30 minutes.
- karlgkk 2y agoI don't know where you live, but in the US it's basically understood by the courts that FaceID is not protected, but PIN is. So if your threat model includes the sort of attacker that has a phone exploit or the ability to confiscate it, you should not be using FaceID. Instead, consider using six digit PIN with auto-delete after 10 attempts. Also enable Lockdown Mode And if you use iCloud, enable Advanced Data Protection.
- chatmasta 2y agoYeah, I consider FaceID to be basically a time-limited vulnerability akin to "remember me," because unlocking is a matter of just showing your face. It's convenient and I like it, but I don't get too upset when it asks me to enter a PIN (although I am annoyed when it doesn't respond well to the "swipe up to enter passcode").
- duskwuff 2y ago30 minutes would be excessive. Keep in mind that the phone is unusable while it's rebooting, and that rebooting uses a nontrivial amount of power.
- chatmasta 2y agoRebooting takes ~7 seconds and ideally only happens when I attempt to use it. But regardless of that.... why does it take a nontrivial amount of power?
- klausa 2y agoBecause booting is relatively CPU-intensive, compared to being at idle. But iPhones do not boot in 7 seconds either — it's closer to 40. At least that's what it took on my 16 Pro Max right now when I tested it.
- fnueiwfg923 2y agoMy iphone 15 just rebooted in 12 seconds.
- oarsinsync 2y agoRebooted or turned on? I had to create a shortcut to actually trigger a reboot, as I couldn’t find a reboot option in settings. My iPhone 13 mini on iOS 17.7.1 took 29 seconds.
- asadotzler 2y agowow. that's quick. my two year old galaxy takes ~37 seconds.
- forgotoldacc 2y agoI'd love to know what model of iPhone you have a see a video of it shutting down and starting back up in 7 seconds. Sounds like an incredible piece of hardware.
- karel-3d 2y agoAlso you cannot read your notifications, if I am not wrong. I think 3 days is actually perfect
- bigiain 2y agoI don't trust FaceID (technically, I don' trust the cops with FaceID), so I'm entering my (6 digit) PIN every time I take my phone out of my pocket anyway. The only thing that'd make me hesitate to set this down to single digit minutes would be the risk of missed calls/notifications while the phone reboots.
- astrange 2y agoIf you're outside the house that's less secure, because a security camera or a shoulder surfer can see your PIN.
- layman51 2y agoAgreed. I don’t understand how someone would be careful to not use biometrics and yet use a six digit passcode instead of an alphanumeric password.
- curious_ralts 2y agoGraphene has a feature exactly for this which shows a shuffled unlock screen
- saagarjha 2y agoThis sounds like an excellent way to make it even easier for people to watch you enter your PIN.
- cubesnooper 2y agoOnce you’ve had the PIN scramble turned on for a while, it becomes second nature. I enter my GrapheneOS scrambled PIN about as quickly as the unscrambled PIN on my non‐GrapheneOS work phone. But it’s more of a defense against figuring out my PIN from the finger marks on my screen. In environments where shoulder surfing is a concern, I prefer to use the multiple profiles feature: log out of my main profile (which is actually a secondary profile) to completely evict its keys from memory, and switch to a burner secondary profile containing no personal data, which unlocks with my fingerprint for convenience.
- babyent 2y agoSpeaking of Face ID, I still use the iPhone SE (latest edition). I like Touch ID and I like the small form factor.