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I agree with the first part totally, and you're probably right I invented something there. I only meant that free speech / "more information helps" seems to re

I agree with the first part totally, and you're probably right I invented something there. I only meant that free speech / "more information helps" seems to resonate with the right, and censorship seems to resonate with the left. Not so?

actionfromafar 2y ago
Censorship of books seem to resonate well with the right.
- exodust 2y ago
  And rewriting books resonates with the left. Is this a game of left/right tennis I've walked into?
  - hughesjj 2y ago
    Depends what you mean in regards to rewriting. If there's a position that runs counter to our current scientific consensus, I think it should be updated to reflect the current consensus, but when I was reading my history/physics books they would cover what people believed at a particular time period. I don't see any issue with that. We're always learning more about the world around us. We are not an omniscient species. Unless there's a more specific example you can think of w.r.t rewriting.
    - exodust 2y ago
      Sounds like you haven't heard of the re-writing of books in the interest of over-enthusiastic DEI. There's non-fiction and fiction examples. Salman Rushdie described it as "absurd censorship. Puffin Books and the Dahl estate should be ashamed" [1]. Apparently children's books can't use the word "black" or "white" any more. And in the children's book "Witches", a witch posing as “a cashier in a supermarket” now poses as “a top scientist”. It's blunt-force rewriting by patronising leftists. Witches are not meant to be role models for little girls. It doesn’t matter where they work. [1] https://x.com/SalmanRushdie/status/1627075835525210113 https://x.com/SalmanRushdie/status/1627075835525210113
seadan83 2y ago
Neither the left nor right are monolithic enough to make those generalizations. The anti-communism suppression of the McCarthy era is a counter-example of that resonance & plenty of left wing examples of the exact idea of "more speech is what is needed to extinguish bad ideas." Those are counter examples to demonstrate it is not a monolithic group in neither time nor space.

actionfromafar 2y ago

Censorship of books seem to resonate well with the right.

exodust 2y ago
And rewriting books resonates with the left. Is this a game of left/right tennis I've walked into?
- hughesjj 2y ago
  Depends what you mean in regards to rewriting. If there's a position that runs counter to our current scientific consensus, I think it should be updated to reflect the current consensus, but when I was reading my history/physics books they would cover what people believed at a particular time period. I don't see any issue with that. We're always learning more about the world around us. We are not an omniscient species. Unless there's a more specific example you can think of w.r.t rewriting.
  - exodust 2y ago
    Sounds like you haven't heard of the re-writing of books in the interest of over-enthusiastic DEI. There's non-fiction and fiction examples. Salman Rushdie described it as "absurd censorship. Puffin Books and the Dahl estate should be ashamed" [1]. Apparently children's books can't use the word "black" or "white" any more. And in the children's book "Witches", a witch posing as “a cashier in a supermarket” now poses as “a top scientist”. It's blunt-force rewriting by patronising leftists. Witches are not meant to be role models for little girls. It doesn’t matter where they work. [1] https://x.com/SalmanRushdie/status/1627075835525210113 https://x.com/SalmanRushdie/status/1627075835525210113

seadan83 2y ago

Neither the left nor right are monolithic enough to make those generalizations. The anti-communism suppression of the McCarthy era is a counter-example of that resonance & plenty of left wing examples of the exact idea of "more speech is what is needed to extinguish bad ideas." Those are counter examples to demonstrate it is not a monolithic group in neither time nor space.