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This "novel" feature is already supported by GrapheneOS and set to trigger after 18 hours by default, with the option for the user to adjust it to their prefere
by noident 2y ago
This "novel" feature is already supported by GrapheneOS and set to trigger after 18 hours by default, with the option for the user to adjust it to their preference. There is no good reason to force the choice of 72 hours on everybody. That's a user-hostile design decision.
- faggotbreath 2y ago[dead]
- Twisell 2y agoIt's probably more of a tradeoff. This longer delay won't prompt hectic headlines about users angry about random reboot, it is long enought so federal agencies won't publicly react and plea Trump for their backdoor again, and it is a low profile update that won't necessarily be noticed beside tech circles thus "small fry" bad actors won't know how to correctly cover their back. A user hostile design would have been to never implement it in the first place. It's basically Apple's signature to choose generic default value and don't bother the user (for the better and sometimes the worse).
- mouse_ 2y agoI remember the first time I ever saw the camera flash used as a flashlight was a feature in Cyanogenmod 7. Wifi hotspot from your phone started as a Cydia app, when legitimate apps weren't particularly useful yet. Hacks have always brought the coolest features to phones, but OEMs have made them less accessible than ever :(
- casper14 2y agoHow is Graphene working for you?
- AzzyHN 2y agoNot OP, but very well!! The only things that don't work for me are Google Pay and Android Auto, which is a shame but I can live without both of those.
- cubesnooper 2y agoGrapheneOS supports Android Auto now! I use it every day.
- hmottestad 2y agoThat kinda sucks. I don’t carry cash or a credit card anymore. I just pay with my phone.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 2y agoUpgrade. Auto is supported now.
- CuriousCosmic 2y agoAndroid Auto works well for me on Graphene (Pixel 9 Pro) but I obv can't make GPay work given that it relies on the OS having Google's blessing and they are actively hostile to GOS as a project.
- switch007 2y agoAuto absolutely works these days but Google Pay definitely doesn't and probably won't ever
- rcMgD2BwE72F 2y agoGrapheneOS is great. I’m on iOS 18 for now (until I get a new Pixel after I got one stolen days ago) and I can’t wait to go back to GrapheneOS.
- AlgebraFox 2y agoNot OP. But I am using GrapheneOS for almost 4 months now. It is a breath of fresh air. Network Permission, Contact Scope, Duress PIN, Hardened Malloc, JIT tuning, Sandboxed Google Play etc.. are some key privacy and security features in Graphene. Will never go back to Apple's or Google's surveillance platforms.
- checkyoursudo 2y agoI have been meaning to try it. Is it best to get a new phone, or will any old model work fine?
- switch007 2y agoYou absolutely want a somewhat modern Pixel https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-support https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-support
- switch007 2y agoNot OP either. It's quite "buggy" (honestly too many to list, mostly UI issues, app issues that can either be attributed to the OS or the app)...but overall I'm happy because of all the great features.
- chatmasta 2y agoBack in my day, this was a non-issue because our phone batteries didn't last more than 6 hours. (Although I guess this change applies also to powered-on phones? Which is cool... this is why I choose Apple products.)
- karlgkk 2y ago> There is no good reason to force the choice of 72 hours on everybody. That's a user-hostile design decision. It apparently only triggers if the phone hasn't been successfully unlocked for three days. So, it really isn't something most users will notice.
- summermusic 2y agoThis is an essential feature for my personal GrapheneOS phone. I only tend to use it once or twice a day most days, which means it is usually freshly rebooted every time I go to use it. I remember reading somewhere that many new exploits in the mobile space only exist in memory and are thwarted by a simple reboot, including the infamous Pegasus spyware.
- ruthmarx 2y agoGraphene might be great, but the Google specific hardware that is the only thing it will run on might not be as trustworthy.
- bohdanqq 2y agoGraphene is not limited to Google hardware, it's just that Google hardware meets their hardware requirements... (https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices). AFAIK (from observing GOS comm channels) verified boot (alternative OSes but even the mechanism itself since some OEMs customize quite a bit), hardware rate limiting and timely security patches (which include modem firmware, preloaders - i.e. hardware) are the main reasons other devices are not supported.
- Malidir 2y agoIt is limited at moment to just pixel!
- saagarjha 2y agoI am curious why you feel this is an "essential" feature. If you only use your phone once or twice a day, why would a hypothetical attacker bother targeting it?
- consteval 2y agoIf your phone contains sensitive information, perhaps pictures, financial information, texts, etc, and it gets stolen - this data could be extracted. But typically, when a phone is rebooted, the drive is encrypted. So you're good to go. Phone theft is quite common, and probably the thief won't bother trying to extract data, but they might.