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> By the same argument you could say UK or US or any other solidly democratic is not democratic, because some commission or organisation is not directly, by the
by lmm 2y ago
> By the same argument you could say UK or US or any other solidly democratic is not democratic, because some commission or organisation is not directly, by the people, elected.
It's a matter of degree rather than a binary. Representative democracy is a little less democratic than direct democracy. Elections every 20 years are a bit less democratic than elections every 5 years. Having the elected representatives appoint a head of state is a bit less democratic than electing one directly. The more layers of indirection you add, the more it becomes a bureaucratic oligarchy.
- data_maan 2y agoI agree. But my point is: Neither are UK or the US really clean democracies. In the US there is an entire system of courts that operate in a completely opaque way (eg FISA court). See my other post below for further examples. It seems here that because the EU likes to regulate more, people somehow perceive it as less democratic.
- lmm 2y agoIt's not so much that the EU regulates more as that it has very little accountability to the public. I think people perceive it as less democratic because it is less democratic. (Which in no way excuses the FISA court etc.).