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What happened to Alex Jones is not some new phenomenon, it is the status quo. There are tons of carve outs and exceptions in defamation law, particularly to pro
by openasocket 2y ago
What happened to Alex Jones is not some new phenomenon, it is the status quo. There are tons of carve outs and exceptions in defamation law, particularly to protect journalists being sued for "getting it wrong." Amon other things, plaintiffs had to demonstrate that Jones acted with "actual malice", which essentially means that Jones either knew what he was saying was false or acted with deliberate disregard for the truth.
Despite that, he lost. He lost multiple times in multiple cases across multiple jurisdictions spanning a decade. He has appealed, and lost, multiple times. Multiple judges and multiple juries have found him liable for a litany of incidents of defamation. Hell, at one point he even lied under oath! Which, depending on the circumstances and the judgement of the prosecutor, could have turned into criminal charges!
And CNN and other news outlets DO get sued for defamation. The most famous such case would probably be Richard Jewell, a security guard who was falsely accused by news outlets of planting a pipe bomb at the 1996 Summer Olympics. A more recent example would be Nicholas Sandmann, falsely accused of racist and aggressive actions at a demonstration.
Nothing is new about Alex Jones. You say "All that's needed is more sunlight, not more politically motivate lawfare". By your own words, you aren't calling for some return to the status quo, you are calling for a change. You think that existing defamation laws should be reformed, because without that you get totalitarianism. But then the burden is on you: if defamation laws are the road to totalitarianism, why haven't we slid into totalitarianism in the last few centuries?
- quantadev 2y agoAlex Jones haters always fixate on that law suit, because it's a win for them. However in my view 99% of what Alex Jones says is important for people to hear, and about 90% of his claims (even the ones that sounded wild and crazy) ended up being proven true. So I think Alex Jones was a net/net benefit to America, by uncovering facts the Deep State Blob doesn't want people to know. Jones is very performative and an entertainer too, so he's not perfect. Nobody is. Regarding totalitarianism: Democrats have been fighting against Free Speech in countless ways, but thus far keep getting defeated in their efforts, by conservatives with more wise minds. Take Britain as an example. People over there are now being JAILED over non-violent political speech, and even speech that is merely "impolite" to protected groups. So to think totalitarianism can't happen to Western Countries is wrong. It can. It is. Currently in the USA however, the good guys have just won an election, and a clean sweep and a mandate to restore Freedom and Common Sense.