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I also think calling them "low-information" is incredibly ethnocentric, to the point of offense. Perhaps they just weight their information differently, especi

I also think calling them "low-information" is incredibly ethnocentric, to the point of offense. Perhaps they just weight their information differently, especially when they exist at different levels of Maslow's hierarchy? It is hard to be "enlightened" (which probably in and of itself means different things to different folks) when youre hustling for food and rent. Poverty is exhausting; poverty impacts higher cognition. Meanwhile, the Dems are seen as the party of DEI, which are wayyyyy above base survival needs, accoring to that hierarchy.

judahmeek 2y ago
"low information voters" is a term for people that vote on relatively low levels of information regarding candidates or policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_information_voter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_information_voter The term has nothing to do with enlightenment or even identity politics.
- drawkward 2y ago
  whooooossshhhhhhhh Edited, to respond more substantively with a quote from your source: >Linguist George Lakoff has written that the term is a pejorative mainly used by American liberals to refer to people who vote conservative against what liberals assume to be their own interests and assumes they do it because they lack sufficient information. Liberals, he said, attribute the problem in part to deliberate Republican efforts at misinforming voters.
  - judahmeek 2y ago
    I get your point: condescension against low-information voters doesn't help. But I think that your argument that the term "low-information" has no use just because it's been used with condescension by some is incorrect. Instead of wasting cognitive energy of finding a new term for the same exact group of people, I think we should focus on treating them with the respect their sizable number of votes deserve.
kube-system 2y ago
Of course -- I don't expect people grinding paycheck-to-paycheck to be spending time mulling over their political ideologies or the merits of proposed policy proposals. And in fact, that's exactly my point. I'm not disparaging their situation, I'm describing it.
- drawkward 2y ago
  We do agree, I am just pointing out what once may have been a technical term (idiot, moron) may have become more of a disparagement these days.
015a 2y ago
Woah, we just speedran "low information is racist" to "poor people are stupid", I've never seen anything like it.
- drawkward 2y ago
  No one said a thing about race. Look up a definition of "ethnocentric" please; ethnocentrism also refers to cultural normativity. Specifically, I was referring to the following idea which can be found on the Wikipedia article on the term "low information voter": >Linguist George Lakoff has written that the term is a pejorative mainly used by American liberals to refer to people who vote conservative against what liberals assume to be their own interests and assumes they do it because they lack sufficient information. Liberals, he said, attribute the problem in part to deliberate Republican efforts at misinforming voters. It seems to me you are the one applying racial priors to my comment. As for the second jerky thing you said: https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/how-poverty-affects-the-brain-and-behavior https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/how-poverty-af... https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1238041 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1238041 https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(22)00428-7/abstract https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(22)00428-7/abs... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5266697/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5266697/ https://neurosciencenews.com/poverty-neurodevelopment-behavior-25923/ https://neurosciencenews.com/poverty-neurodevelopment-behavi... https://www.nber.org/system/files/chapters/c13830/revisions/c13830.rev3.pdf https://www.nber.org/system/files/chapters/c13830/revisions/... https://academic.oup.com/jrsssa/article/179/2/535/7068210?login=false https://academic.oup.com/jrsssa/article/179/2/535/7068210?lo...

judahmeek 2y ago

"low information voters" is a term for people that vote on relatively low levels of information regarding candidates or policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_information_voter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_information_voter The term has nothing to do with enlightenment or even identity politics.

drawkward 2y ago
whooooossshhhhhhhh Edited, to respond more substantively with a quote from your source: >Linguist George Lakoff has written that the term is a pejorative mainly used by American liberals to refer to people who vote conservative against what liberals assume to be their own interests and assumes they do it because they lack sufficient information. Liberals, he said, attribute the problem in part to deliberate Republican efforts at misinforming voters.
- judahmeek 2y ago
  I get your point: condescension against low-information voters doesn't help. But I think that your argument that the term "low-information" has no use just because it's been used with condescension by some is incorrect. Instead of wasting cognitive energy of finding a new term for the same exact group of people, I think we should focus on treating them with the respect their sizable number of votes deserve.

kube-system 2y ago

Of course -- I don't expect people grinding paycheck-to-paycheck to be spending time mulling over their political ideologies or the merits of proposed policy proposals. And in fact, that's exactly my point. I'm not disparaging their situation, I'm describing it.

drawkward 2y ago
We do agree, I am just pointing out what once may have been a technical term (idiot, moron) may have become more of a disparagement these days.

015a 2y ago

Woah, we just speedran "low information is racist" to "poor people are stupid", I've never seen anything like it.

drawkward 2y ago
No one said a thing about race. Look up a definition of "ethnocentric" please; ethnocentrism also refers to cultural normativity. Specifically, I was referring to the following idea which can be found on the Wikipedia article on the term "low information voter": >Linguist George Lakoff has written that the term is a pejorative mainly used by American liberals to refer to people who vote conservative against what liberals assume to be their own interests and assumes they do it because they lack sufficient information. Liberals, he said, attribute the problem in part to deliberate Republican efforts at misinforming voters. It seems to me you are the one applying racial priors to my comment. As for the second jerky thing you said: https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/how-poverty-affects-the-brain-and-behavior https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/how-poverty-af... https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1238041 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1238041 https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(22)00428-7/abstract https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(22)00428-7/abs... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5266697/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5266697/ https://neurosciencenews.com/poverty-neurodevelopment-behavior-25923/ https://neurosciencenews.com/poverty-neurodevelopment-behavi... https://www.nber.org/system/files/chapters/c13830/revisions/c13830.rev3.pdf https://www.nber.org/system/files/chapters/c13830/revisions/... https://academic.oup.com/jrsssa/article/179/2/535/7068210?login=false https://academic.oup.com/jrsssa/article/179/2/535/7068210?lo...