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I would interpret that as somebody working on ML algorithms and architectures, not somebody developing a product that uses some form of AI at runtime...

spmurrayzzz 2y ago
I haven't seen this sort of work called AI Developer yet, but I may have missed the trend shift. Isn't the convention for this still to use the title of Machine Learning Engineer (MLE)?
- master-lincoln 2y ago
  There is another thread here that seems to confirm it's me who has missed a trend shift. I didn't know this term had a special meaning. I just followed the thought that an x-developer is somebody developing x.
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    They use "AI" like they use "Python" in "Python developer" or "Web" in "Web developer".
JohnFen 2y ago
I work on such a team, and we don't refer to ourselves as "AI engineers". We're devs working on developing deep learning systems (but not genAI).
- swyx 2y ago
  correct - but "developing a product that uses some form of AI at runtime" is a job that people do and the community has consolidated around "AI engineer" as shorthand https://www.latent.space/p/ai-engineer https://www.latent.space/p/ai-engineer i argue that its useful to have these shorthands to quickly understand what people do. its not so nice to just be default suspicious at a perhaps lower-technical-difficulty job that nevertheless a lot of comapnies want and a lot of people do
  - dr_dshiv 2y ago
    Difficulty ≠ Value But we think it is, due to our learned industrious—which is the opposite of learned helplessness. We associate difficulty with reward. And we feel discomfort when really valuable things become very easy. Strange times.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - throwaway290 2y ago
    Why is it lower difficulty? If didn't get that impression from the article
- throwaway314155 2y ago
  > devs working on developing deep learning systems (but not genAI) Catchy job title.
  - JohnFen 2y ago
    My job title is "software engineer".
  - 8338550bff96 2y ago
    I work on such a team too. I don't care what you call me - pay me

spmurrayzzz 2y ago

I haven't seen this sort of work called AI Developer yet, but I may have missed the trend shift. Isn't the convention for this still to use the title of Machine Learning Engineer (MLE)?

master-lincoln 2y ago
There is another thread here that seems to confirm it's me who has missed a trend shift. I didn't know this term had a special meaning. I just followed the thought that an x-developer is somebody developing x.
- throwaway290 2y ago
  They use "AI" like they use "Python" in "Python developer" or "Web" in "Web developer".

JohnFen 2y ago

I work on such a team, and we don't refer to ourselves as "AI engineers". We're devs working on developing deep learning systems (but not genAI).

swyx 2y ago
correct - but "developing a product that uses some form of AI at runtime" is a job that people do and the community has consolidated around "AI engineer" as shorthand https://www.latent.space/p/ai-engineer https://www.latent.space/p/ai-engineer i argue that its useful to have these shorthands to quickly understand what people do. its not so nice to just be default suspicious at a perhaps lower-technical-difficulty job that nevertheless a lot of comapnies want and a lot of people do
- dr_dshiv 2y ago
  Difficulty ≠ Value But we think it is, due to our learned industrious—which is the opposite of learned helplessness. We associate difficulty with reward. And we feel discomfort when really valuable things become very easy. Strange times.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- throwaway290 2y ago
  Why is it lower difficulty? If didn't get that impression from the article
throwaway314155 2y ago
> devs working on developing deep learning systems (but not genAI) Catchy job title.
- JohnFen 2y ago
  My job title is "software engineer".
- 8338550bff96 2y ago
  I work on such a team too. I don't care what you call me - pay me