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Haven't you seen the DOGE department yet?

by Maken 2y ago

reaperducer 2y ago
Haven't you seen the DOGE department yet? How do you make government smaller? Step 1: Make government bigger by inventing a new department! (Strictly speaking, it's not a government department. It is a private entity that will operate outside the government, and influence the president. What could possibly go wrong?)
- Maken 2y ago
  Whatever it is, it for sure has the lolzs as its basis.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- dmix 2y ago
  > It is a private entity that will operate outside the government, and influence the president. What could possibly go wrong? National Science Board is an external advisory board to the US gov. There's tons of examples of this sort of thing, especially in education and science.
  - sofixa 2y ago
    Pretty sure the National Science Board isn't co-chaired by a CEO and part owner multibillionaire with direct personal interests around government funded science projects though.
    - dmix 2y ago
      Not defending Doge just saying it's not new. Defence Business Board is a similar analogy. Plenty of people working at companies with gov contracts on the board during its history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Business_Board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Business_Board https://dbb.defense.gov/Board-Members/ https://dbb.defense.gov/Board-Members/
  - burkaman 2y ago
    The National Science Board was established by Congress, its activities are defined and governed by the law that created it, and it is clearly a part of the executive branch. Why do you consider it to be external to the government?
    - dmix 2y ago
      I'm guessing Doge would be regulated under this act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Advisory_Committee_Act?wprov=sfti1# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Advisory_Committee_Act...
      - burkaman 2y ago
        If they actually follow the legal requirements listed in that article I will come back and apologize to you.
        dmix 2y ago
        It would have to be by law. The president can’t make a task force consisting of external advisors (non full time federal employees) in an official matter unless their activities are public and open to inspection. Clinton got in trouble for this by putting Hillary on a Task Force in the early 1990s.
- avgDev 2y ago
  Nothing screams efficiency like 2 dept heads.
  - talldayo 2y ago
    And let's be perfectly clear - given two weeks in office they will be screaming at us.
  - notahacker 2y ago
    In fairness, the possibility the two heads' respective egos will cancel each other out is the most efficient thing about it...
- kouru225 2y ago
  Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy… They have two people running the Department of Government Efficiency
triceratops 2y ago
> DOGE department https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepartmentOfRedu...

Haven't you seen the DOGE department yet?

by Maken 2y ago

Haven't you seen the DOGE department yet?

Haven't you seen the DOGE department yet? How do you make government smaller? Step 1: Make government bigger by inventing a new department! (Strictly speaking, it's not a government department. It is a private entity that will operate outside the government, and influence the president. What could possibly go wrong?)

Maken 2y ago
Whatever it is, it for sure has the lolzs as its basis.
deleted 2y ago
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dmix 2y ago
> It is a private entity that will operate outside the government, and influence the president. What could possibly go wrong? National Science Board is an external advisory board to the US gov. There's tons of examples of this sort of thing, especially in education and science.
- sofixa 2y ago
  Pretty sure the National Science Board isn't co-chaired by a CEO and part owner multibillionaire with direct personal interests around government funded science projects though.
  - dmix 2y ago
    Not defending Doge just saying it's not new. Defence Business Board is a similar analogy. Plenty of people working at companies with gov contracts on the board during its history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Business_Board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Business_Board https://dbb.defense.gov/Board-Members/ https://dbb.defense.gov/Board-Members/
- burkaman 2y ago
  The National Science Board was established by Congress, its activities are defined and governed by the law that created it, and it is clearly a part of the executive branch. Why do you consider it to be external to the government?
  - dmix 2y ago
    I'm guessing Doge would be regulated under this act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Advisory_Committee_Act?wprov=sfti1# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Advisory_Committee_Act...
    - burkaman 2y ago
      If they actually follow the legal requirements listed in that article I will come back and apologize to you.
      - dmix 2y ago
        It would have to be by law. The president can’t make a task force consisting of external advisors (non full time federal employees) in an official matter unless their activities are public and open to inspection. Clinton got in trouble for this by putting Hillary on a Task Force in the early 1990s.
avgDev 2y ago
Nothing screams efficiency like 2 dept heads.
- talldayo 2y ago
  And let's be perfectly clear - given two weeks in office they will be screaming at us.
- notahacker 2y ago
  In fairness, the possibility the two heads' respective egos will cancel each other out is the most efficient thing about it...
kouru225 2y ago
Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy… They have two people running the Department of Government Efficiency

triceratops 2y ago

> DOGE department https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepartmentOfRedu...