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There are no universally held beliefs. Even for things that seem fairly solid, you can always find people in disagreement.
by ktizo 14y ago
There are no universally held beliefs. Even for things that seem fairly solid, you can always find people in disagreement.
- drivebyacct2 14y agoOkay, I'll phrase it another way. If Google has to lobby for it, it's probably not as universally held as cheez seemed to be taking for granted.
- corin_ 14y agoDoes calling it "good stuff" imply universally held?
- yew 14y agoThe statement that something is good, without further qualification, does tend to imply that it is universally held to be good. Albeit the two aren't necessarily synonymous. They tend to be taken as such in everyday conversation.
- corin_ 14y agoIn my opinion "good" is subjective by default, not objective. Further, I would think that even when objectiveness is implied it would be that the speaker thinks it should be universally held, not that it necessarily is. Gay marriage is not universally supported, this we know. Do you personally think it is "good"? If not, does that mean you think it is the opposite, "bad", just because not everyone supports it?
- yew 14y agoThink of it as a matter of communication. Everyone (or at least almost everyone) is lobbying for 'good stuff,' so it's not a particularly useful statement to make all by itself. > Further, I would think that even when objectiveness is implied it would be that the speaker thinks it should be universally held, not that it necessarily is. Hence the two not being synonymous. Perhaps I simply happen to know an unusually large number of people who believe that moral correctness implies a convincing argument.
- ktizo 14y agoI thought cheez was giving personal opinion, not speaking for the world. Is fairly obvious that it is not universally held to be good. The UN only recently removed homosexuality from the list of things states are not allowed to execute their citizens for and the arguments about gay marriage are currently tearing great holes in many of the major sects of christianity, accompanied by much public wailing and gnashing of teeth. To think that it was a universally held belief at this point in time would require an extremely restricted social circle and no access to any form of media, so given that cheez is posting on the intatubes, I doubt this is the case.