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Steve Jobs also had pancreatic cancer. Quincy Jones just died from pancreatic cancer.

by canucker2016 2y ago

compressedgas 2y ago
Jef Raskin also had pancreatic cancer.
- melling 2y ago
  All these people too. Hopefully someday we make an effort to cure it. We’ve made so little progress. Randy Pausch - Last Lecture Steve Jobs Patrick Swayze Sally Ride - astronaut Piers Sellers - astronaut Hans Rosling Richard Hatch Michael Landon Bill Hicks - Comedian Jef Raskin - Macintosh Aretha Franklin Luciano Pavarotti Sharon Jones Alan Rickman Dizzy Gillespie Benoit Mandelbrot Wernher von Braun
  - canucker2016 2y ago
    Matt Bencke, former CEO of Mighty AI (bought by Uber in 2019). He was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Trigger warning: https://www.wired.com/story/the-day-i-found-out-my-life-was-hanging-by-a-thread/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-day-i-found-out-my-life-was-...
  - dastbe 2y ago
    Part of the problem with pancreatic cancer is detection. Most people (like my dad) are only catching it when it is stage 3 or stage 4 and you're already way on the wrong side of the odds. If you catch pancreatic cancer as stage 1 or stage 2 in most cases the odds are basically 50/50.
zxexz 2y ago
The best time in history to have cancer is now, and we need to make sure that statement continues to be true for every year yet to come. Having cancer is still some of the worst news an individual can hear. And it’s nigh but inevitable; we roll the dice every second. A lot of the issue is the hush-hush manner we treat the subject with, IMO, and the “us vs. them” mentality with the “pharma industry”. I don’t think anybody should criticize Steve for his course of treatment, but the charlatans that led him down that path. For every Steve Jobs there are thousands of Steves with a similar story.
- melling 2y ago
  5 year survival for pancreatic cancer is 12% https://pancan.org/news/five-year-pancreatic-cancer-survival-rate-increases-to-12/ https://pancan.org/news/five-year-pancreatic-cancer-survival... We are seeing some cancer breakthroughs but we’ve got a lot of work remaining https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-69006713.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-69006713.amp
- runamok 2y ago
  The story afaict is less charlatans and more Jobs' hubris and ignoring his doctors. He has a pretty long history of questionable health decisions from what I have read. In October 2003, Jobs was diagnosed with cancer. In mid 2004, he announced to his employees that he had a cancerous tumor in his pancreas. The prognosis for pancreatic cancer is very poor; *Jobs stated that he had a rare, less aggressive type, known as islet cell neuroendocrine tumor.* Jobs resisted his doctors' recommendations for medical intervention for nine months, in favor of alternative medicine. Other doctors agree that Jobs's diet was insufficient to address his disease. However, cancer researcher and alternative medicine critic David Gorski wrote that "it's impossible to know whether and by how much he might have decreased his chances of surviving his cancer through his flirtation with woo. My best guess was that Jobs probably only modestly decreased his chances of survival, if that." Barrie R. Cassileth, the chief of Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center's integrative medicine department, on the other hand, said, "Jobs's faith in alternative medicine likely cost him his life ... He had the only kind of pancreatic cancer that is treatable and curable ... He essentially committed suicide." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs (under Health problems)
  - zxexz 2y ago
    Did not know his was neuroendocrine. But still, something or somebody led him down that path (or rather, a multitude of someones and somethings, over who-knows-what timeframe). It's sad - not because it was Steve Jobs, but because it's an example of something that in aggregate would lead to substantially less suffering if people understood what was even possible. I've known a few smart people that died of things that they could have had a high change of not dying from if they took proper action when they first found out. For instance, I've known 2 separate Christian Scientists with (different, treatable - often curable without so much as minor surgery) Stage I or II cancers, who ended up withering away for a few years before passing.

Steve Jobs also had pancreatic cancer. Quincy Jones just died from pancreatic cancer.

compressedgas 2y ago

Jef Raskin also had pancreatic cancer.

melling 2y ago
All these people too. Hopefully someday we make an effort to cure it. We’ve made so little progress. Randy Pausch - Last Lecture Steve Jobs Patrick Swayze Sally Ride - astronaut Piers Sellers - astronaut Hans Rosling Richard Hatch Michael Landon Bill Hicks - Comedian Jef Raskin - Macintosh Aretha Franklin Luciano Pavarotti Sharon Jones Alan Rickman Dizzy Gillespie Benoit Mandelbrot Wernher von Braun
- canucker2016 2y ago
  Matt Bencke, former CEO of Mighty AI (bought by Uber in 2019). He was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Trigger warning: https://www.wired.com/story/the-day-i-found-out-my-life-was-hanging-by-a-thread/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-day-i-found-out-my-life-was-...
- dastbe 2y ago
  Part of the problem with pancreatic cancer is detection. Most people (like my dad) are only catching it when it is stage 3 or stage 4 and you're already way on the wrong side of the odds. If you catch pancreatic cancer as stage 1 or stage 2 in most cases the odds are basically 50/50.

zxexz 2y ago

The best time in history to have cancer is now, and we need to make sure that statement continues to be true for every year yet to come. Having cancer is still some of the worst news an individual can hear. And it’s nigh but inevitable; we roll the dice every second. A lot of the issue is the hush-hush manner we treat the subject with, IMO, and the “us vs. them” mentality with the “pharma industry”. I don’t think anybody should criticize Steve for his course of treatment, but the charlatans that led him down that path. For every Steve Jobs there are thousands of Steves with a similar story.

melling 2y ago
5 year survival for pancreatic cancer is 12% https://pancan.org/news/five-year-pancreatic-cancer-survival-rate-increases-to-12/ https://pancan.org/news/five-year-pancreatic-cancer-survival... We are seeing some cancer breakthroughs but we’ve got a lot of work remaining https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-69006713.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-69006713.amp
runamok 2y ago
The story afaict is less charlatans and more Jobs' hubris and ignoring his doctors. He has a pretty long history of questionable health decisions from what I have read. In October 2003, Jobs was diagnosed with cancer. In mid 2004, he announced to his employees that he had a cancerous tumor in his pancreas. The prognosis for pancreatic cancer is very poor; *Jobs stated that he had a rare, less aggressive type, known as islet cell neuroendocrine tumor.* Jobs resisted his doctors' recommendations for medical intervention for nine months, in favor of alternative medicine. Other doctors agree that Jobs's diet was insufficient to address his disease. However, cancer researcher and alternative medicine critic David Gorski wrote that "it's impossible to know whether and by how much he might have decreased his chances of surviving his cancer through his flirtation with woo. My best guess was that Jobs probably only modestly decreased his chances of survival, if that." Barrie R. Cassileth, the chief of Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center's integrative medicine department, on the other hand, said, "Jobs's faith in alternative medicine likely cost him his life ... He had the only kind of pancreatic cancer that is treatable and curable ... He essentially committed suicide." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs (under Health problems)
- zxexz 2y ago
  Did not know his was neuroendocrine. But still, something or somebody led him down that path (or rather, a multitude of someones and somethings, over who-knows-what timeframe). It's sad - not because it was Steve Jobs, but because it's an example of something that in aggregate would lead to substantially less suffering if people understood what was even possible. I've known a few smart people that died of things that they could have had a high change of not dying from if they took proper action when they first found out. For instance, I've known 2 separate Christian Scientists with (different, treatable - often curable without so much as minor surgery) Stage I or II cancers, who ended up withering away for a few years before passing.