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Bill Atkinson has pancreatic cancer

66 points by incanus77 2y ago

toomuchtodo 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Atkinson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Atkinson
incanus77 2y ago
MacPaint, QuickDraw, Hypercard, Atkinson dithering... a true legend.
- canucker2016 2y ago
  Bill Atkinson stories from foklore.org https://folklore.org/Joining_Apple_Computer.html https://folklore.org/Joining_Apple_Computer.html https://folklore.org/I_Still_Remember_Regions.html https://folklore.org/I_Still_Remember_Regions.html https://folklore.org/Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.html https://folklore.org/Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.html https://folklore.org/Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.html https://folklore.org/Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.html https://folklore.org/Mythical_Man_Year.html https://folklore.org/Mythical_Man_Year.html https://folklore.org/Busy_Being_Born.html https://folklore.org/Busy_Being_Born.html
  - canucker2016 2y ago
    also https://www.folklore.org/MacPaint_Evolution.html https://www.folklore.org/MacPaint_Evolution.html
- incanus77 2y ago
  I should point out: pancreatic cancer is not a death sentence, but the prognosis is generally very bad. I lost my wife, who was half Bill's age, to the disease.
  - robotresearcher 2y ago
    Gallbladder, an adjacent organ, is very dangerous too. I lost my wife last year, at 52. She survived just nine months from diagnosis. I’m sorry, my friend.
    - incanus77 2y ago
      You as well. The first year is hard.
canucker2016 2y ago
https://archive.is/9PJTq https://archive.is/9PJTq Request for Prayers November 12, 2024 I am asking friends and well-wishers to pray for me. I believe that group intention can actually make a difference. On October first, I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Because of vascular involvement, surgery is not possible. I am taking weekly chemo treatments to shrink the tumor before surgical resection. I am tolerating the chemo pretty well, and I am in good spirits. Every day I make a point of getting out in the sun and walking with Cai and Poppy. I am receiving excellent care for my physical body from a team of doctors and nurses at Stanford and UCSF. I am also receiving several different modalities of holistic treatments for my emotional and spiritual health. The treatments are helping, and I am feeling much less pain now. I am even regaining a little of the weight that I lost. From my Iboga experience seven years ago, I know for certain that my consciousness and memories will continue after I leave my physical body. I have no existential fear of death. Actually more anticipation and curiosity. At 73 years, I have already lived an amazing and wonderful life. I have loved and been loved, beginning with my remarkable mother who believed in me. With my work at Apple and General Magic I am grateful that I could make positive contributions to the lives of many millions of people, and even affect the course of human evolution. But I want more quality time to share life and experiences with Cai and with my friends and family. My bucket list is not filled with places to travel, but instead with quality time with those I love and those who love me. I am living my life filled with gratitude. Each day is a special gift to be unwrapped, enjoyed, and cherished. Thank you for praying for me. Bill Atkinson
canucker2016 2y ago
Steve Jobs also had pancreatic cancer. Quincy Jones just died from pancreatic cancer.
- compressedgas 2y ago
  Jef Raskin also had pancreatic cancer.
  - melling 2y ago
    All these people too. Hopefully someday we make an effort to cure it. We’ve made so little progress. Randy Pausch - Last Lecture Steve Jobs Patrick Swayze Sally Ride - astronaut Piers Sellers - astronaut Hans Rosling Richard Hatch Michael Landon Bill Hicks - Comedian Jef Raskin - Macintosh Aretha Franklin Luciano Pavarotti Sharon Jones Alan Rickman Dizzy Gillespie Benoit Mandelbrot Wernher von Braun
    - canucker2016 2y ago
      Matt Bencke, former CEO of Mighty AI (bought by Uber in 2019). He was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Trigger warning: https://www.wired.com/story/the-day-i-found-out-my-life-was-hanging-by-a-thread/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-day-i-found-out-my-life-was-...
    - dastbe 2y ago
      Part of the problem with pancreatic cancer is detection. Most people (like my dad) are only catching it when it is stage 3 or stage 4 and you're already way on the wrong side of the odds. If you catch pancreatic cancer as stage 1 or stage 2 in most cases the odds are basically 50/50.
- zxexz 2y ago
  The best time in history to have cancer is now, and we need to make sure that statement continues to be true for every year yet to come. Having cancer is still some of the worst news an individual can hear. And it’s nigh but inevitable; we roll the dice every second. A lot of the issue is the hush-hush manner we treat the subject with, IMO, and the “us vs. them” mentality with the “pharma industry”. I don’t think anybody should criticize Steve for his course of treatment, but the charlatans that led him down that path. For every Steve Jobs there are thousands of Steves with a similar story.
freediver 2y ago
Leo Reporte with Atkinson on Hypercard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdJKjBHCh18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdJKjBHCh18
deleted 2y ago
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pvaldes 2y ago
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- aaomidi 2y ago
  Pancreatic cancer is something that has such a low success in treatment, it makes sense why humans would just try whatever. I think its hard to judge folks in this situation. Most of us aren't faced with Pancreatic cancer to know what it does to the psyche.
- keybored 2y ago
  Medicine can be reductive to the degree of the blind men and the elephant. Holisticism as a concept makes sense given that contrast.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  Your reply does not deserve to be flagged. "Holistic medicine" is just one of the many rebrandings of "alternative medicine." Maybe I wouldn't have put it exactly that way, but "holistic" is definitely one of those key words that should gently sound the quackery alert. Like "herbal" and "detox" and "homeopathy" and "naturopathy" and so on.
bhouston 2y ago
I initial thought it was a weird coincidence that both him and Steve Jobs got pancreatic cancer. But then I checked and the lifetime risk of pancreatic cancer for a man is like 1:50, which is sort of insane: https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/pancreatic-cancer/about/key-statistics.html https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/pancreatic-cancer/about/...
- Temporary_31337 2y ago
  Wait till you find out what the risk of Alzheimer’s is for someone over 100 years old. (Hint at 120 it’s currently estimated at around 100%) It’s basically what disease is going to kill you first. So I find efforts by Bryan Johnson to increase his lifespan pretty idiotic- he won’t be able to avoid the cancer and the Alzheimer’s risks as he ages - to my knowledge nothing In his routines is very effective against those.
  - WorkerBee28474 2y ago
    > I find efforts by Bryan Johnson to increase his lifespan pretty idiotic- he won’t be able to avoid the cancer and the Alzheimer’s risks as he ages At worst, he can be another data point. With enough of those, maybe someone will find a better treatment.
- WorkerBee28474 2y ago
  And working with certain chemicals can increase that a lot: > Our meta-regression showed that pancreatic cancer risk increased by a 1% per-year increment in occupational exposure duration to chemical agents Aside from the obvious incidences in rubber/plastics manufacturing, it's thought to hit pathologists especially hard from exposure to formaldehyde. [0]https://academic.oup.com/occmed/article/73/4/211/7143670 https://academic.oup.com/occmed/article/73/4/211/7143670
  - JKCalhoun 2y ago
    When I lived in the Bay Area I was told there were some fucked up chemicals used in the production of PCBs that remained in the water from the valley's Golden Era (?). Perhaps there is something in the water then?
keybored 2y ago
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- arnavpraneet 2y ago
  I don't get this, can someone explain
- dang 2y ago
  Please don't do this here. Edit: if you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
mmastrac 2y ago
Is this the reason for the current black bar? EDIT: Maybe Thomas Kurtz? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42141761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42141761
- coding123 2y ago
  Yes, that popped up quickly, but normally isn't that reserved for after someone has passed away? edi: Oh, for Thomas Kurtz, another thread

66 points by incanus77 2y ago

toomuchtodo 2y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Atkinson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Atkinson

incanus77 2y ago

MacPaint, QuickDraw, Hypercard, Atkinson dithering... a true legend.

canucker2016 2y ago
Bill Atkinson stories from foklore.org https://folklore.org/Joining_Apple_Computer.html https://folklore.org/Joining_Apple_Computer.html https://folklore.org/I_Still_Remember_Regions.html https://folklore.org/I_Still_Remember_Regions.html https://folklore.org/Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.html https://folklore.org/Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.html https://folklore.org/Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.html https://folklore.org/Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.html https://folklore.org/Mythical_Man_Year.html https://folklore.org/Mythical_Man_Year.html https://folklore.org/Busy_Being_Born.html https://folklore.org/Busy_Being_Born.html
- canucker2016 2y ago
  also https://www.folklore.org/MacPaint_Evolution.html https://www.folklore.org/MacPaint_Evolution.html
incanus77 2y ago
I should point out: pancreatic cancer is not a death sentence, but the prognosis is generally very bad. I lost my wife, who was half Bill's age, to the disease.
- robotresearcher 2y ago
  Gallbladder, an adjacent organ, is very dangerous too. I lost my wife last year, at 52. She survived just nine months from diagnosis. I’m sorry, my friend.
  - incanus77 2y ago
    You as well. The first year is hard.

canucker2016 2y ago

https://archive.is/9PJTq https://archive.is/9PJTq Request for Prayers November 12, 2024 I am asking friends and well-wishers to pray for me. I believe that group intention can actually make a difference. On October first, I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Because of vascular involvement, surgery is not possible. I am taking weekly chemo treatments to shrink the tumor before surgical resection. I am tolerating the chemo pretty well, and I am in good spirits. Every day I make a point of getting out in the sun and walking with Cai and Poppy. I am receiving excellent care for my physical body from a team of doctors and nurses at Stanford and UCSF. I am also receiving several different modalities of holistic treatments for my emotional and spiritual health. The treatments are helping, and I am feeling much less pain now. I am even regaining a little of the weight that I lost. From my Iboga experience seven years ago, I know for certain that my consciousness and memories will continue after I leave my physical body. I have no existential fear of death. Actually more anticipation and curiosity. At 73 years, I have already lived an amazing and wonderful life. I have loved and been loved, beginning with my remarkable mother who believed in me. With my work at Apple and General Magic I am grateful that I could make positive contributions to the lives of many millions of people, and even affect the course of human evolution. But I want more quality time to share life and experiences with Cai and with my friends and family. My bucket list is not filled with places to travel, but instead with quality time with those I love and those who love me. I am living my life filled with gratitude. Each day is a special gift to be unwrapped, enjoyed, and cherished. Thank you for praying for me. Bill Atkinson

canucker2016 2y ago

Steve Jobs also had pancreatic cancer. Quincy Jones just died from pancreatic cancer.

compressedgas 2y ago
Jef Raskin also had pancreatic cancer.
- melling 2y ago
  All these people too. Hopefully someday we make an effort to cure it. We’ve made so little progress. Randy Pausch - Last Lecture Steve Jobs Patrick Swayze Sally Ride - astronaut Piers Sellers - astronaut Hans Rosling Richard Hatch Michael Landon Bill Hicks - Comedian Jef Raskin - Macintosh Aretha Franklin Luciano Pavarotti Sharon Jones Alan Rickman Dizzy Gillespie Benoit Mandelbrot Wernher von Braun
  - canucker2016 2y ago
    Matt Bencke, former CEO of Mighty AI (bought by Uber in 2019). He was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Trigger warning: https://www.wired.com/story/the-day-i-found-out-my-life-was-hanging-by-a-thread/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-day-i-found-out-my-life-was-...
  - dastbe 2y ago
    Part of the problem with pancreatic cancer is detection. Most people (like my dad) are only catching it when it is stage 3 or stage 4 and you're already way on the wrong side of the odds. If you catch pancreatic cancer as stage 1 or stage 2 in most cases the odds are basically 50/50.
zxexz 2y ago
The best time in history to have cancer is now, and we need to make sure that statement continues to be true for every year yet to come. Having cancer is still some of the worst news an individual can hear. And it’s nigh but inevitable; we roll the dice every second. A lot of the issue is the hush-hush manner we treat the subject with, IMO, and the “us vs. them” mentality with the “pharma industry”. I don’t think anybody should criticize Steve for his course of treatment, but the charlatans that led him down that path. For every Steve Jobs there are thousands of Steves with a similar story.

freediver 2y ago

Leo Reporte with Atkinson on Hypercard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdJKjBHCh18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdJKjBHCh18

deleted 2y ago

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pvaldes 2y ago

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aaomidi 2y ago
Pancreatic cancer is something that has such a low success in treatment, it makes sense why humans would just try whatever. I think its hard to judge folks in this situation. Most of us aren't faced with Pancreatic cancer to know what it does to the psyche.
keybored 2y ago
Medicine can be reductive to the degree of the blind men and the elephant. Holisticism as a concept makes sense given that contrast.
ryandrake 2y ago
Your reply does not deserve to be flagged. "Holistic medicine" is just one of the many rebrandings of "alternative medicine." Maybe I wouldn't have put it exactly that way, but "holistic" is definitely one of those key words that should gently sound the quackery alert. Like "herbal" and "detox" and "homeopathy" and "naturopathy" and so on.

bhouston 2y ago

I initial thought it was a weird coincidence that both him and Steve Jobs got pancreatic cancer. But then I checked and the lifetime risk of pancreatic cancer for a man is like 1:50, which is sort of insane: https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/pancreatic-cancer/about/key-statistics.html https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/pancreatic-cancer/about/...

Temporary_31337 2y ago
Wait till you find out what the risk of Alzheimer’s is for someone over 100 years old. (Hint at 120 it’s currently estimated at around 100%) It’s basically what disease is going to kill you first. So I find efforts by Bryan Johnson to increase his lifespan pretty idiotic- he won’t be able to avoid the cancer and the Alzheimer’s risks as he ages - to my knowledge nothing In his routines is very effective against those.
- WorkerBee28474 2y ago
  > I find efforts by Bryan Johnson to increase his lifespan pretty idiotic- he won’t be able to avoid the cancer and the Alzheimer’s risks as he ages At worst, he can be another data point. With enough of those, maybe someone will find a better treatment.
WorkerBee28474 2y ago
And working with certain chemicals can increase that a lot: > Our meta-regression showed that pancreatic cancer risk increased by a 1% per-year increment in occupational exposure duration to chemical agents Aside from the obvious incidences in rubber/plastics manufacturing, it's thought to hit pathologists especially hard from exposure to formaldehyde. [0]https://academic.oup.com/occmed/article/73/4/211/7143670 https://academic.oup.com/occmed/article/73/4/211/7143670
- JKCalhoun 2y ago
  When I lived in the Bay Area I was told there were some fucked up chemicals used in the production of PCBs that remained in the water from the valley's Golden Era (?). Perhaps there is something in the water then?

keybored 2y ago

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arnavpraneet 2y ago
I don't get this, can someone explain
dang 2y ago
Please don't do this here. Edit: if you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

mmastrac 2y ago

Is this the reason for the current black bar? EDIT: Maybe Thomas Kurtz? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42141761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42141761

coding123 2y ago
Yes, that popped up quickly, but normally isn't that reserved for after someone has passed away? edi: Oh, for Thomas Kurtz, another thread