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While you pay for an ad-free experience, it: 1) doesn’t remove in-feed/sponsored ads 2) can occasionally still show you ads (seen it myself)

by rvnx 2y ago

neom 2y ago
https://sponsor.ajay.app/ https://sponsor.ajay.app/ Sponsor skip
treesciencebot 2y ago
I think the main problem is with 2) since 1 is entirely up to the content creator's discretion.
- yen223 2y ago
  I will not be surprised if YouTube figures out a way to make content creators pay a portion of their sponsored content.
  - kalleboo 2y ago
    Didn't Twitch try to do this?
    - wongarsu 2y ago
      The backlash from Twitch's attempt may well be why Youtube isn't doing it
  - LordKeren 2y ago
    They’re already going after sponsor reads. On iOS with YouTube premium, I get a button prompt asking if I want to skip a commonly skipped sections. 9/10 it’s the sponsor read. The remaining 1/10 is patreon I haven’t seen much about it so I’m not sure if im in an A/B test
sparky_z 2y ago
1) is like being mad that you payed for an ad-free ebay experience, but then you used it to buy some old magazines and there were ads in them.
- milch 2y ago
  Not really? As the watcher I don't really care whether 2 minutes into the video it gets interrupted for 30s to tell me about square space or the video keeps playing and the host is telling me about square space for 30s. The only difference is who is doing the taking. If I'm paying for the ad-free experience I want an ad-free experience
  - sparky_z 2y ago
    My hypothetical ebay guy says the exact same thing. "If I'm paying for the ad-free experience I want an ad-free experience." Why is he being unreasonable and you're not?
    - milch 2y ago
      Because eBay doesn't sell an ad-free premium version that removes ads but then still shows me sponsored ads as soon as I click on a listing or a seller's page. Neither does eBay intercept packages after you've made a purchase to drop their own ad flyers inside, or offer a premium tier that does prevent them from inserting an "eBay recommends square space for all your website building needs" flyer, but you end up with a "monkeybusiness78 recommends square space..." flyer in your package anyway
      - sparky_z 2y ago
        You're correct, they don't. My example was a hypothetical analogy. If they did and you paid for them to stop... would you also expect them to also censor the magazine ads? I don't think you would.
- amiga386 2y ago
  I think it's more like being annoyed at OTA television programs which are interrupted by ads put there by the broadcasters, because none of the funding comes from viewers/subscribers, it's all from ads ...so people who don't want ads are marketed to by cable TV companies, and invited to pay a subscription for TV with no ads, because _all_ the program's funding comes from subscribers ...and then either the cable TV people get greedy and start adding ads to programs already 100% funded by subscribers ...or the program makers get greedy and cut product-placement deals to get extra money on top of their 100% funding from subscribers In either of these situations, subscribers can rightly ask: why the fuck did I agree to fund these people? They promised me no ads if I pay, and they've added ads. The answer is: don't pay, make them lose revenue, and either they will respect the promises they made to subscribers, or they will abandon it completely and go back to free-to-air with ads, or they'll go bankrupt (or they'll keep conning people, and some portion of suckers will always fall for the "no ads! oh hey, i started adding ads to your no ads subscription, hope you like it! ka-ching!" approach, and they'll get by on duplicity)
xoxxala 2y ago
To solve #1, you could use the Sponsorblock extension; it still works with YT premium. I don't since sponsor segments are skippable and I make a little game about guessing the exact amount of time to skip forward. Some creators are even kind enough to put timecodes there (but that feels like cheating). I don't mind sponsor segments. Multiple unskippable ads in a row that have nothing to do with the topic are infuriating.
dpig_ 2y ago
While #1 is definitely pedantic, YouTube has added a 'Jump Ahead' button that allows you to skip content that a majority of users have skipped. This usually lines up with sponsor segments.

While you pay for an ad-free experience, it: 1) doesn’t remove in-feed/sponsored ads 2) can occasionally still show you ads (seen it myself)

by rvnx 2y ago

While you pay for an ad-free experience, it: 1) doesn’t remove in-feed/sponsored ads 2) can occasionally still show you ads (seen it myself)

neom 2y ago

https://sponsor.ajay.app/ https://sponsor.ajay.app/ Sponsor skip

treesciencebot 2y ago

I think the main problem is with 2) since 1 is entirely up to the content creator's discretion.

yen223 2y ago
I will not be surprised if YouTube figures out a way to make content creators pay a portion of their sponsored content.
- kalleboo 2y ago
  Didn't Twitch try to do this?
  - wongarsu 2y ago
    The backlash from Twitch's attempt may well be why Youtube isn't doing it
- LordKeren 2y ago
  They’re already going after sponsor reads. On iOS with YouTube premium, I get a button prompt asking if I want to skip a commonly skipped sections. 9/10 it’s the sponsor read. The remaining 1/10 is patreon I haven’t seen much about it so I’m not sure if im in an A/B test

sparky_z 2y ago

1) is like being mad that you payed for an ad-free ebay experience, but then you used it to buy some old magazines and there were ads in them.

milch 2y ago
Not really? As the watcher I don't really care whether 2 minutes into the video it gets interrupted for 30s to tell me about square space or the video keeps playing and the host is telling me about square space for 30s. The only difference is who is doing the taking. If I'm paying for the ad-free experience I want an ad-free experience
- sparky_z 2y ago
  My hypothetical ebay guy says the exact same thing. "If I'm paying for the ad-free experience I want an ad-free experience." Why is he being unreasonable and you're not?
  - milch 2y ago
    Because eBay doesn't sell an ad-free premium version that removes ads but then still shows me sponsored ads as soon as I click on a listing or a seller's page. Neither does eBay intercept packages after you've made a purchase to drop their own ad flyers inside, or offer a premium tier that does prevent them from inserting an "eBay recommends square space for all your website building needs" flyer, but you end up with a "monkeybusiness78 recommends square space..." flyer in your package anyway
    - sparky_z 2y ago
      You're correct, they don't. My example was a hypothetical analogy. If they did and you paid for them to stop... would you also expect them to also censor the magazine ads? I don't think you would.
amiga386 2y ago
I think it's more like being annoyed at OTA television programs which are interrupted by ads put there by the broadcasters, because none of the funding comes from viewers/subscribers, it's all from ads ...so people who don't want ads are marketed to by cable TV companies, and invited to pay a subscription for TV with no ads, because _all_ the program's funding comes from subscribers ...and then either the cable TV people get greedy and start adding ads to programs already 100% funded by subscribers ...or the program makers get greedy and cut product-placement deals to get extra money on top of their 100% funding from subscribers In either of these situations, subscribers can rightly ask: why the fuck did I agree to fund these people? They promised me no ads if I pay, and they've added ads. The answer is: don't pay, make them lose revenue, and either they will respect the promises they made to subscribers, or they will abandon it completely and go back to free-to-air with ads, or they'll go bankrupt (or they'll keep conning people, and some portion of suckers will always fall for the "no ads! oh hey, i started adding ads to your no ads subscription, hope you like it! ka-ching!" approach, and they'll get by on duplicity)

xoxxala 2y ago

To solve #1, you could use the Sponsorblock extension; it still works with YT premium. I don't since sponsor segments are skippable and I make a little game about guessing the exact amount of time to skip forward. Some creators are even kind enough to put timecodes there (but that feels like cheating). I don't mind sponsor segments. Multiple unskippable ads in a row that have nothing to do with the topic are infuriating.

dpig_ 2y ago

While #1 is definitely pedantic, YouTube has added a 'Jump Ahead' button that allows you to skip content that a majority of users have skipped. This usually lines up with sponsor segments.