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Random smarty pants internet people always crack me up... like -- Amazon is super successful company. Like, maybe they know something about being a super succes

Random smarty pants internet people always crack me up... like -- Amazon is super successful company. Like, maybe they know something about being a super successful company?

no_wizard 2y ago
Success in one arena does not mean success in another. Also, its doubly true that one of their core beliefs is being 'data driven' but no data on this has materialized, even the CEO admitted this is all 'based on gut feeling'. I don't blame people for calling that on its face, it flys against a purported core value
- runnr_az 2y ago
  Given your obvious expertise and experience, I’m shocked that they didn’t consult you.
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ipaddr 2y ago
They never win best place to work awards. Success for shareholders isn't success for employees.
- runnr_az 2y ago
  AMZN employees are very well compensated for their efforts. Hard to see this as an attack on the proletariat
akira2501 2y ago
> maybe they know something about being a super successful company? If being successful is simply a matter of knowing a few things then why aren't more businesses successful? Why wouldn't those employees in the know just leave and start their own business?
- runnr_az 2y ago
  Doesn’t that observation support the point I’m making?
  - akira2501 2y ago
    And how do you account for the fact it has no predictive power? Following the logic of your assertion we see very few cases which actually reach it. Wouldn't that suggest it is incorrect or at least incomplete in some way?
    - runnr_az 2y ago
      I’m not sure I really understand what you’re trying to say here, but in general, I’d be inclined to let the people who successfully built Amazon into a 2.25 trillion dollar company continue to do their thing
Wytwwww 2y ago
Boeing and Intel also were very successful companies until they weren't. Arguably the decisions that led to that were made years if not decades before there were any publicly obvious signs of their demise. I bet the there plenty of people saying the same things as you are here and in other threads. Of course I'm not saying this or any other specific action will somehow lead to Amazon's demise but saying stuff like you did in the other thread: "I’d be inclined to let the people who successfully built Amazon into a 2.25 trillion dollar company continue to do their thing" Just seems a bit silly... Regardless, Amazon might have other incentives than maximizing the wellbeing and of their employees in no way does that conflict with them being very successful.
- runnr_az 2y ago
  Eh. Maybe. Who knows? It's more the attitude that I'm mocking: "I've seen that this company performed very well, perhaps better than any company in history. I, a random person with absolutely no idea what metrics / etc... they've used to make these decisions, insist that they should do it a totally different way."
htrp 2y ago
Leaders operate at all levels, stay connected to the details, audit frequently, and are skeptical when metrics and anecdote differ. No task is beneath them.
ycombinatrix 2y ago
Random smarty pants internet people always crack me up... like -- Blockbuster is super successful company. Like, maybe they know something about being a super successful company?

Random smarty pants internet people always crack me up... like -- Amazon is super successful company. Like, maybe they know something about being a super successful company?

no_wizard 2y ago

Success in one arena does not mean success in another. Also, its doubly true that one of their core beliefs is being 'data driven' but no data on this has materialized, even the CEO admitted this is all 'based on gut feeling'. I don't blame people for calling that on its face, it flys against a purported core value

runnr_az 2y ago
Given your obvious expertise and experience, I’m shocked that they didn’t consult you.
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ipaddr 2y ago

They never win best place to work awards. Success for shareholders isn't success for employees.

runnr_az 2y ago
AMZN employees are very well compensated for their efforts. Hard to see this as an attack on the proletariat

akira2501 2y ago

> maybe they know something about being a super successful company? If being successful is simply a matter of knowing a few things then why aren't more businesses successful? Why wouldn't those employees in the know just leave and start their own business?

runnr_az 2y ago
Doesn’t that observation support the point I’m making?
- akira2501 2y ago
  And how do you account for the fact it has no predictive power? Following the logic of your assertion we see very few cases which actually reach it. Wouldn't that suggest it is incorrect or at least incomplete in some way?
  - runnr_az 2y ago
    I’m not sure I really understand what you’re trying to say here, but in general, I’d be inclined to let the people who successfully built Amazon into a 2.25 trillion dollar company continue to do their thing

Wytwwww 2y ago

Boeing and Intel also were very successful companies until they weren't. Arguably the decisions that led to that were made years if not decades before there were any publicly obvious signs of their demise. I bet the there plenty of people saying the same things as you are here and in other threads. Of course I'm not saying this or any other specific action will somehow lead to Amazon's demise but saying stuff like you did in the other thread: "I’d be inclined to let the people who successfully built Amazon into a 2.25 trillion dollar company continue to do their thing" Just seems a bit silly... Regardless, Amazon might have other incentives than maximizing the wellbeing and of their employees in no way does that conflict with them being very successful.

runnr_az 2y ago
Eh. Maybe. Who knows? It's more the attitude that I'm mocking: "I've seen that this company performed very well, perhaps better than any company in history. I, a random person with absolutely no idea what metrics / etc... they've used to make these decisions, insist that they should do it a totally different way."

htrp 2y ago

Leaders operate at all levels, stay connected to the details, audit frequently, and are skeptical when metrics and anecdote differ. No task is beneath them.

ycombinatrix 2y ago

Random smarty pants internet people always crack me up... like -- Blockbuster is super successful company. Like, maybe they know something about being a super successful company?