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My personal experience in the two years or so has lead me to conclude that a lot of employers have started wanting medical paperwork for much more inane cases t

My personal experience in the two years or so has lead me to conclude that a lot of employers have started wanting medical paperwork for much more inane cases than they historically did, and in response, a lot of medical providers have started saying "no" to such requests, since they (pretty reasonably, to me) don't want to be in the business of saying "yeah they were sneezing for 3 days maybe don't make them come in", or such inane things. Of course, this screws over people with problems who could get such paperwork before but didn't need to, as well as people who existed in the gap where they didn't need that before so now if they try to report it, they're going to get questions about "why don't you have a paper trail of this?", as well as "you didn't seem sick". Because, shockingly, if you tell people, directly or indirectly, that you prefer the people who don't have an illness, they will learn to cover it up real well, or they get fired or quit when everyone but them gets promoted.

no_wizard 2y ago
I have a disability that has to be accommodated. It is very legitimate, but it is not exactly 'easy to see'. I have mountains of paperwork I submit at this point, because over time I have noticed a simple 1 page medical explanation was starting to get rejected, so I'd have to go back and forth getting more and more. Now I'm at the point where I am submitting 25 pieces of discrete information, from multiple professionals. Frankly, it feels humiliating but I would negatively affect my life I didn't go through the rigamarole. Then there's the whole 'is this influencing whether I get promoted or not' questions and such. When WFH became common place, it became so much easier for me to exist as a human being with some dignity left on the table, but alas, who cares about that, god forbid we give that any credence in the modern work place. There's already a huge body of work about how people with disability face discrimination in multiple aspects of our lives, including work, yet the culture still thinks people want to declare these with HR because it makes their life easier? Oh it sure doesn't.
- rincebrain 2y ago
  People are bad at modeling behavior they're unfamiliar with. People who have never had any problems with executive dysfunction think you just don't want to if you say you're having trouble doing XYZ and you don't have some visible injury because for them, there's never been any disconnect between "deciding to do it" and "doing it", so they think you're making shit up. People who have never had significant physical impediments can't imagine "just push through it" being a thing that you're doing constantly so pushing further is going to fuck you up for a week or two, and so on.

no_wizard 2y ago

I have a disability that has to be accommodated. It is very legitimate, but it is not exactly 'easy to see'. I have mountains of paperwork I submit at this point, because over time I have noticed a simple 1 page medical explanation was starting to get rejected, so I'd have to go back and forth getting more and more. Now I'm at the point where I am submitting 25 pieces of discrete information, from multiple professionals. Frankly, it feels humiliating but I would negatively affect my life I didn't go through the rigamarole. Then there's the whole 'is this influencing whether I get promoted or not' questions and such. When WFH became common place, it became so much easier for me to exist as a human being with some dignity left on the table, but alas, who cares about that, god forbid we give that any credence in the modern work place. There's already a huge body of work about how people with disability face discrimination in multiple aspects of our lives, including work, yet the culture still thinks people want to declare these with HR because it makes their life easier? Oh it sure doesn't.

rincebrain 2y ago
People are bad at modeling behavior they're unfamiliar with. People who have never had any problems with executive dysfunction think you just don't want to if you say you're having trouble doing XYZ and you don't have some visible injury because for them, there's never been any disconnect between "deciding to do it" and "doing it", so they think you're making shit up. People who have never had significant physical impediments can't imagine "just push through it" being a thing that you're doing constantly so pushing further is going to fuck you up for a week or two, and so on.